1.8 kompressor (help)
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1.8 kompressor (help)
From what I understand this is a new configuration for MB. The old kompressor was 2.3 liters with an iron block aluminum head. The 1.8 is aluminum block and head. Also the pulley kits by kleemann, asp, etc. will not work on this new package. Is there much information out there about getting more performance out of the 1.8? Would you buy this?
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Re: 1.8 kompressor (help)
Originally posted by toddk
From what I understand this is a new configuration for MB. The old kompressor was 2.3 liters with an iron block aluminum head. The 1.8 is aluminum block and head. Also the pulley kits by kleemann, asp, etc. will not work on this new package. Is there much information out there about getting more performance out of the 1.8? Would you buy this?
From what I understand this is a new configuration for MB. The old kompressor was 2.3 liters with an iron block aluminum head. The 1.8 is aluminum block and head. Also the pulley kits by kleemann, asp, etc. will not work on this new package. Is there much information out there about getting more performance out of the 1.8? Would you buy this?
You are just going to have to wait for products, since this engine is in it's first year.
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Re: 1.8 kompressor (help)
Originally posted by toddk
From what I understand this is a new configuration for MB. The old kompressor was 2.3 liters with an iron block aluminum head. The 1.8 is aluminum block and head. Also the pulley kits by kleemann, asp, etc. will not work on this new package. Is there much information out there about getting more performance out of the 1.8? Would you buy this?
From what I understand this is a new configuration for MB. The old kompressor was 2.3 liters with an iron block aluminum head. The 1.8 is aluminum block and head. Also the pulley kits by kleemann, asp, etc. will not work on this new package. Is there much information out there about getting more performance out of the 1.8? Would you buy this?
This supercharger is the same size as the 2.3L and runs approx 11 psi of boost (roughly 2x the 2.3L boost) to make the power. The max boost that should be run with this Eaton supercharger is 14 psi. Thus you don't have a lot of room for a pulley to make as much difference as a 2.3L (no pulley exists as far as I know yet).
Given the extra boost level already present, a more effecient intercooler should buy you some HP and that is where I would start. The intercooler looks similar to the 2.3L model but I do not know if it is exactly the same. If it is than you could buy one.(Maybe Kleeman or someone can shed some light on this for us)
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Re: Re: Re: 1.8 kompressor (help)
Originally posted by Mercedes
I believe that kleeman was comming out with a supercharger replacment. And that it would be in the 2-3k price range?
I believe that kleeman was comming out with a supercharger replacment. And that it would be in the 2-3k price range?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.8 kompressor (help)
Originally posted by DCXdynodog
Last I heard he put it on the back burner.
Last I heard he put it on the back burner.
We will use this car in a competition in a few months, so we have to get back after the project. First engine to get the SC replacement is the M111. We will address the M271 after the M111 is complete.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.8 kompressor (help)
Originally posted by KLEEMANN
Its now on the front burner, with knob set at HIGH.
We will use this car in a competition in a few months, so we have to get back after the project. First engine to get the SC replacement is the M111. We will address the M271 after the M111 is complete.
Its now on the front burner, with knob set at HIGH.
We will use this car in a competition in a few months, so we have to get back after the project. First engine to get the SC replacement is the M111. We will address the M271 after the M111 is complete.
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KLEEMAN, are you guys working on a pulley for the 1.8 as well? I thought Lucas said that was the case.
Oh and I plan on upgrading the Intercooler as well. Hopefully someone will get there first and give us all some performance numbers for that upgrade on the 1.8L engine.
Oh and I plan on upgrading the Intercooler as well. Hopefully someone will get there first and give us all some performance numbers for that upgrade on the 1.8L engine.
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Lucas (KLEEMANN DK) is working on a pulley as well- we will have several options for the 4 cylinder market. FYI: the IC has the same PN for both M111 and M271 engines.
The non-linear relationship of boost pressure to heat as it concerns an EATON SC (higher boost equals exponential increase in discharge T) means the IC is a great place to start on the new engine.
No more PINK (hey it was PURPLE anyway
).
The non-linear relationship of boost pressure to heat as it concerns an EATON SC (higher boost equals exponential increase in discharge T) means the IC is a great place to start on the new engine.
No more PINK (hey it was PURPLE anyway
).
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KLEEMAN, thanks that is what I thought. I am going to start with the intercooler once they go on group buy or a less expensive alternative shows up. The $1000 for it seems steep, I would much rather it be $5-800. Maybe after enough are produced it will drop. Is Kleeman producing one as well?
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Originally posted by mctwin2kman
KLEEMAN, thanks that is what I thought. I am going to start with the intercooler once they go on group buy or a less expensive alternative shows up. The $1000 for it seems steep, I would much rather it be $5-800. Maybe after enough are produced it will drop. Is Kleeman producing one as well?
KLEEMAN, thanks that is what I thought. I am going to start with the intercooler once they go on group buy or a less expensive alternative shows up. The $1000 for it seems steep, I would much rather it be $5-800. Maybe after enough are produced it will drop. Is Kleeman producing one as well?
