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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Question About switching to manual...

Can I dow it while I'm driving on D? Or I have to do it while I'm not driving?

can I switch back to auto while I'm driving? is it possible that I might harm my car or the computer wont allow me? cuz I noticed if I forgot to shift the gear it does it by it self.

can anyone write for me a simulation of driving on manual?

ex.: "I'm driving on D now. I saw that hot chick I want to follow. So, I move the stick to the right and switch to manual... "

"...I'm on 4th gear now, in front of me a traffic light, I should..."

"...I need to accelerate and go between those cars, so I should..."

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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Don't mind me asking, but how old are you?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Big Sheesh
Don't mind me asking, but how old are you?
19. and if u r wondering why I want to switch to maunal, check the killer sotries board! (after replying )
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Re: About switching to manual...

Originally posted by darkfact
"...I'm on 4th gear now, in front of me a traffic light, I should..."
If you know the lights will turn red, and you won't be able to gun it in time, then just apply the brakes to stop. If you know you can gun it, then gas up to up the revs, drop to 3rd for more power and pray no cops or photo radar catch you.

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"...I need to accelerate and go between those cars, so I should..."
If you want more power then gas up to increase rpm, drop a gear and smile as you drive past them.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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heh, thanks for ur post... but I really wanted you to "teach" me how to drive in manual. not just those two things.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by darkfact
heh, thanks for ur post... but I really wanted you to "teach" me how to drive in manual. not just those two things.
There's no way I can teach you to drive manual when you have an automatic car, and secondly it's even more difficult in writing. You will need to find a standard transmission driving instructor.
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I think you need to realise that you don't have a true manual. What you get by going to left is a range of gears. The MB auto tranny cannot be switched to a fully manual mode that will hold the gear. This is easily verified by putting it to left and letting your FSS idicator show you 4 for example. Now, if you come to a complete stop and then accelerate you will notice gear shifts.

Big Sheesh: Don't mind me asking, but how old are you?
Good question.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Ok ok… I’ll make it easier. I’ll post some question and pray someone would reply…

Can I dow it while I'm driving on D? Or I have to do it while I'm not driving?

When I drive on manual. I start accelerating, then from first gear I go to second, 3rd and finally forth? That’s it? the whole driving is on fourth? Or I should stay on 3rd?

When I want to come to a full stop. What should I do? how to down shift?

While I’m driving… is there any time what so ever while I’m driving to go to the 2nd gear?

can I switch back to auto while I'm driving? is it possible that I might harm my car or the computer wont allow me? cuz I noticed if I forgot to shift the gear it does it by it self.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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I think you need to realise that you don't have a true manual. What you get by going to left is a range of gears. The MB auto tranny cannot be switched to a fully manual mode that will hold the gear. This is easily verified by putting it to left and letting your FSS idicator show you 4 for example. Now, if you come to a complete stop and then accelerate you will notice gear shifts.

Big Sheesh: Don't mind me asking, but how old are you?
Good question.

yes! thats what dad told me! he was testing my car when said the car is shifting gears!

so... what I get from that is there is no way I could harm the car?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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come on guys... I'm not asking too much, I'm sure most of u know the answers.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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I'm starting to question you are in Kuwait. I was in Saudi Arabia (Jeddah) for 5 yrs and if there are any hot chicks 1) they'd be pretty much covered up so u cant tell 2) women are not allowed to drive (unless they changed the laws). 3) alot of questions you ask are in the manual that should have came with the car.

I'm just curious....no offense or anything.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Question Did I say I'm from Saudi Arabia?!

1) I'm from Kuwait. Women always drive cars here... since cars came to Kuwait!.
2) Women were never covered in black. some few now started to do that cuz they're married from saudis. they are considered odd here (with all due respect).
3) My manual is lost. said that millions of times. even if I didn't lose it. it probably would've been in German. dad's car is imported too. and its manual in german.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Did I say I'm from Saudi Arabia?!

Originally posted by darkfact
1) I'm from Kuwait. Women always drive cars here... since cars came to Kuwait!.
2) Women were never covered in black. some few now started to do that cuz they're married from saudis. they are considered odd here (with all due respect).
3) My manual is lost. said that millions of times. even if I didn't lose it. it probably would've been in German. dad's car is imported too. and its manual in german.
alright alright calm down. i'll do you a favor and try this link http://www.mbusa.com/media/downloads.../c230_2002.pdf (its the US 02 C230k model but alot of info should apply to you still...its also 27mb so I hope they have high speed internet in Kuwait....or wherever you are )
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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You should have a 5-speed auto. With this you can shift at any time by moving the lever to the right or left. This is promarily used if you want to downshift say going down a hill to a lower gear to slow the car down some so there is no need to hit the brakes. DO whatever you want with your car, the computer will not let you over rev the engine with an auto. It has rev limiters and the auto tranny will not shift down if it should not because of high revs. You can not damage the car using this mode. I also suggest finding a new owners manual and reading it, there is a lot of good info in there about questions you keep asking. You are young so I will forgive you for not knowing how to drive an auto, oh wait no I won't as an auto just does everything for itself and there is really no other need to put it in the manual mode unless downshifting for hills as I stated. It will not make the car any faster and is actually known to shift slower when using the lever, because the tranny has to think and of course the human being is not as quick as the computer to respond.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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LOOOL…

Thanks. I’m sorry about that temper.

I just found out that a girl I know for over a year is getting married in the next few months. she is older than me... I mean there is no way I would've had anything serious with her...
but I still feel sad. Its like if I lost her. for ever...
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Thank you VERY much...
I wish u are a girl so I can kiss u all over to show u how grateful I am :p

Same goes to berry who showed me where the manual is

But hey, you said it wont let the car go any faster?

Lets assume that I’m racing with a girl on the highway… I’m on the fourth gear, I need to change lanes, I go to the right lane. I’m driving too fast. I must slow down. What should I do? brake then down shift to third?
After avoiding the car by changing lanes again… I should down shift again to accelerate or just press on the gas?

there is a difference I think… the C230K goes from 0-100Km/h in 8.1 sec on auto, 7.1 in manual I think.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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OK, I just can't help it. I've said it before -- I'm fascinated with "everyone's" adoration of the manumatic transmissions that have become the rage. Automatics have ALWAYS been able to be shifted manually!! You could always downshift to 3rd, 2nd, etc down steep hills. All the manumatics do is let you punch the lever forward or back one gear at a time without worrying about missing a gear. OK, OK, they also prevent stupid mistakes, but c'mon, this isn't new!

And, to end my diatribe, any claim that a manumatic at all approaches a true manual just isn't true. (OK, I've slipped into my flame-resistant suit :p )

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Originally posted by tberry
I'm starting to question you are in Kuwait. ...alot of questions you ask are in the manual that should have came with the car.

I'm just curious....no offense or anything.
tberry

I think a lot off us are asking the same question. I for one question his stated age. 19? Some of his posts; i.e. C200K better than C230K, trade his for an SL500(SL350). Is an ISP check in order?

Originally posted by darkfact
My manual is lost. said that millions of times. even if I didn't lose it. it probably would've been in German. dad's car is imported too. and its manual in german.
Why not get a new manual from your dealer? Why did you get a car without knowing anything about it? You have to admit that that sounds very strange.

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I'm from Kuwait.
Do you stay up late so you can post when this forum is active?

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Thanks. I’m sorry about that temper.
Accepted. No offense here either. Just wondering.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by darkfact
Thank you VERY much...
I wish u are a girl so I can kiss u all over to show u how grateful I am :p

Same goes to berry who showed me where the manual is

But hey, you said it wont let the car go any faster?

Lets assume that I’m racing with a girl on the highway… I’m on the fourth gear, I need to change lanes, I go to the right lane. I’m driving too fast. I must slow down. What should I do? brake then down shift to third?
After avoiding the car by changing lanes again… I should down shift again to accelerate or just press on the gas?

there is a difference I think… the C230K goes from 0-100Km/h in 8.1 sec on auto, 7.1 in manual I think.
That is the diference between an actual manual 6 speed tranny and the automatic which I believ in every country is a 5 speed auto not 4. The automatic is designed to downshift on its own when needed. That is also what the button under the gas pedal is for, to let the computer know you floored it and expect it to downshift if it can. There really is no need to drive in manual mode, there is absolutelly no acceleration advantage, none. I have a six speed and those figures are done with a highly trained driver, not too many people in life can hit them there numbers. Don't get me wrong but the average driver will never get those numbers. I have not gotten totally used to my car as my wife gets it and it has been snowy here so it has been hard to see how fast she really will accelerate. Plus I need some time to get used to the shifter as well as the rev happy characteristics of the motor. I have hit redline a few times not paying attention or forgetting it is a 6 speed. I have not owned a standard shift in about 10 years. So the moral is just floor it and leave the shifetr in D and of course have fun.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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"I think a lot off us are asking the same question. I for one question his stated age. 19? Some of his posts; i.e. C200K better than C230K, trade his for an SL500(SL350). Is an ISP check in order?"

I hate it when people do that... about the C200 better than the C230... did you read the post before mine?! I know the C230 is better than mine. But I asked that question when one of the posters said that the European version of C200 has 2.3L engine and the US version of C230 comes in 1.8L.

the trade topic was sarcastic. I even said that... I said "who knows, maybe a multi millionaire is reading this"!!



Why not get a new manual from your dealer? Why did you get a car without knowing anything about it? You have to admit that that sounds very strange.

I said it millions of times... my car is imported... from Germany. I wont get free one from the dealer. they dealer wont even check my car for free... I have to pay for every thing... I wont pay 200 bucks for a manual!! (last time I had to pay the dealer 300 bucks just to see why I have the engine light on!! the problem was solved with a 9 bucks STP!!!!)


Do you stay up late so you can post when this forum is active?

Yes, we have spring brake. its 30 days long. Friday is the final day. by the way... its after 3 am here. and if you notice my posts you'll see me I post all the times. I only get three hours of sleeping a day.


And hey, if you don’t believe that I’m Kuwaiti you can check the other topic of mine, the one about… umm… what was it, heh… what ever, there is some other topic here with a lot of posts in it (not about tires) I was talking Arabic in Kuwaiti accent with some other Kuwaiti guy. Kuwaiti accent is hard to learn. Even those that are living in Kuwait all their lives can’t even speak it correctly.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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by the way berry...

How can i find the section where I can check for downloads? Like the manual u gave me? (is it for c-coupe by the way?)
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by darkfact
yes! thats what dad told me! he was testing my car when said the car is shifting gears!
And the wheel was invented just yesterday. What else did your dad discover?

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Originally posted by darkfact
I said it millions of times... my car is imported... from Germany. I wont get free one from the dealer. they dealer wont even check my car for free... I have to pay for every thing... I wont pay 200 bucks for a manual!! (last time I had to pay the dealer 300 bucks just to see why I have the engine light on!! the problem was solved with a 9 bucks STP!!!!)
Are you saying that you bought your car without verifying that you got everything you paid for? Didn't you know that this is what happens when you go grey market?

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Yes, ... its after 3 am here. and if you notice my posts you'll see me I post all the times.
Didn't you know that the time shown can be adjusted to each and every individual user and therefore will not give an individual, world location dependent, posting times?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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And the wheel was invented just yesterday. What else did your dad discover?
he was testing it on manual you wisea**!!! the car changed gears without him touching anything.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Are you saying that you bought your car without verifying that you got everything you paid for?
I asked the guy working in the shop that i bought my car from about the manuals. he said he has them and they leave it in their office. dad was in a hurry so we didn't wait for him. we called him some other time and he said he doesn't have it! he said they changed offices and probably lost them!



Originally posted by amdeutsch Didn't you know that this is what happens when you go grey market?[/B]
anyway... whats they grey market? I was at MB dealer the other day and I noticed a paper calling imported cars like mine "grey market cars". is it like the black market? where they sell stolen thing? heh.



Originally posted by amdeutsch Didn't you know that the time shown can be adjusted to each and every individual user and therefore will not give an individual, world location dependent, posting times? [/B]
So what? I don't get it? my time is set on GMT. hey, I'm from Kuwait... like it or not! heh, and by the way... I hate it when people try to act smart on me... and they don't even know what they are talkinga about!! and I mean about that guy who said women are not even allowed to drive in Kuwait!!! LOL.

anyway, I took my car to the service couple of days ago. and I sent the recipts to dad, so I have them uploaded in my site... heh, I'll post them for u maybe u want to see them!!!


http://www.angelfire.com/az3/df_gf/acc1.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/df_gf/acc2.jpg

those are new ones... and in case you don't believe me, here is one I just uploaded... it has my car model too... and if you didn't believe that... I have to say something "baaaaaaad" :p it ends with "ur self" LOL, don't take it personal... I'm just fooling around :p

http://www.angelfire.com/mac/newuser2/inv.jpg

by the way... do you think that was fair? I really think they ripped me off in that invoice.
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