HP Chart for Upsolute Mod
#2
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sitting behind thing freakin desk of mine. Dreaming I was playing my Taylors, and driving my Benz. Long Live The VRAA!!!!!!
Posts: 2,924
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
C230 Sports Coupe
is there a way that you can display the dyno run on just one gear, instead of 4. Its alot easier to see the hp increase over the rpm band from one gear instead of 4. If you cant ta\hats no big deal. Thanks man. That power increase was what about 30rwhp. I'm sold! Imagine that with Renntech pully (which adds 30hp) what a quick little car!
hey wait a minute, the max hp difference from stock and chipped is only about 17 or 18 hp. yeah at that one point its around 30 hp but for most of the powerband its only around 10hp or so.
hey wait a minute, the max hp difference from stock and chipped is only about 17 or 18 hp. yeah at that one point its around 30 hp but for most of the powerband its only around 10hp or so.
Last edited by TimmyC230boy; 01-25-2002 at 05:20 PM.
#3
Out Of Control!!
I think I'm missing something. This is new to me so please excuse my ignorance. :p I thought that the stock C230 had 192 HP. Isn't this only showing 184.2 max?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
#4
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sitting behind thing freakin desk of mine. Dreaming I was playing my Taylors, and driving my Benz. Long Live The VRAA!!!!!!
Posts: 2,924
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
C230 Sports Coupe
Revstriker, There is a difference between flywheel hp and rear wheel hp. Car makers frequently quote flywheel hp as opposed to rear wheel hp to make the car look stronger than it really is. You will loose anywhere from 10-20% hp between the engine and the wheels, most of which is lost through the transmission.
#5
192 hp is crankshaft horsepower. The dyno result is rear wheel hp. The difference is frictional losses in the drivetrain, losses due to accessories, differences in the dynos and conditions at the times of the syno runs.
Trending Topics
#8
Super Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: bucks county
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
black on black 2k2-230k auto/c1/c5/c7/k2c/COMAND/TELEAID/Stage II HIDS
for 300 bucks its not at all a bad deal. especially if its easily reversible, and invisible.
i was wondering something, what kinda results would one expect with a new pully, and then a chip? i dont really expect the 50-60 hp gain someone stated earlier... hmmmm
someone fill me in.... i have never toyed with a SC engine before
greg
i was wondering something, what kinda results would one expect with a new pully, and then a chip? i dont really expect the 50-60 hp gain someone stated earlier... hmmmm
someone fill me in.... i have never toyed with a SC engine before
greg
#9
Out Of Control!!
Re: HP Chart for Upsolute Mod
Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Here's the chart I got of the Upsolute mod.
Here's the chart I got of the Upsolute mod.
Revstriker:
The dyno we have at Evosport, and most other shops, shows the power given to the rear wheels. There is a powerloss due to the transmission (more with automatic), and thus the result is usually 10-17% less than factory claimed HP.
Greg230:
The Kleemann power upgrade kit for the C230 Coupe raises HP by 38 to 230, and Torque by 39 to 239lbs-ft torque. For the price, it is definitely worth it. Give me an email if you want more info on it.
#10
Super Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
w203 c230K 2002
greg230
Originally posted by greg230
for 300 bucks its not at all a bad deal. especially if its easily reversible, and invisible.
i was wondering something, what kinda results would one expect with a new pully, and then a chip? i dont really expect the 50-60 hp gain someone stated earlier... hmmmm
someone fill me in.... i have never toyed with a SC engine before
greg
for 300 bucks its not at all a bad deal. especially if its easily reversible, and invisible.
i was wondering something, what kinda results would one expect with a new pully, and then a chip? i dont really expect the 50-60 hp gain someone stated earlier... hmmmm
someone fill me in.... i have never toyed with a SC engine before
greg
Randy
#11
Super Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Agoura Hills, CA
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C230K
do you have a chart showing the torque increase too. What would be really helpful. Is one gear, showing rpm (x axis) vs power (hp, torque on the y axis, but scaled)
#12
MBWorld Fanatic!
are we convinced yet? it seems like there is always another piece of technical info that is needed? i don't really know about dynos, etc, but i can see that there is about 30hp increase. is my interpretation correct or will the additional torque charts provide contrary evidence? or maybe not such a great improvement?
how do i tell that the red (greater line) is the after-chip run?
and it looks like 5-10 hp increase over most of the speeds 0-55 mph and 30hp only at 120mph. so, i'd interpret that as, in reality, a 5-10 hp increase for real-life driving. still compelling especially w/ the fuel efficiency increase.
what are the peaks? gear shift changes? why the big dip at 52 mph and 87 mph?
how do i tell that the red (greater line) is the after-chip run?
and it looks like 5-10 hp increase over most of the speeds 0-55 mph and 30hp only at 120mph. so, i'd interpret that as, in reality, a 5-10 hp increase for real-life driving. still compelling especially w/ the fuel efficiency increase.
what are the peaks? gear shift changes? why the big dip at 52 mph and 87 mph?
Last edited by young; 01-29-2002 at 12:30 AM.
#13
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2002 C230 K
I posted a similar question on the Performance Mods forum: but with a supercharged engine would one really see that big of a difference with an air-filter/cold air intake? I can see how it would help a normally aspirated car, especially since there is usually a different inlet pipe leading into the throttle body. But with a supercharged car the amount of air in the intake manifold is governed via the supercharger itself and is cooled by the intercooler (as supercharging will heat up the compressed air), and considering the rumor has it that the Upsolute chip modifies the activity of some computer acutated bleed valve then the engine is already getting a good amount of air that can be increased with no filter change. However, I can see how increasing intercooler efficiency should be the way to go as this would provide cooler denser air with which to make more power.
Cheers, BT
Cheers, BT
#14
Super Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
w203 c230K 2002
Trench,
I agree with you the gains by modifying the air filter or air box will not be as dramatic on a forced induction engine verses a naturally aspirated engine. Increasing the efficiency of the intercooler will return the largest gain for modifications to the induction system.
Randy
I agree with you the gains by modifying the air filter or air box will not be as dramatic on a forced induction engine verses a naturally aspirated engine. Increasing the efficiency of the intercooler will return the largest gain for modifications to the induction system.
Randy
#15
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sitting behind thing freakin desk of mine. Dreaming I was playing my Taylors, and driving my Benz. Long Live The VRAA!!!!!!
Posts: 2,924
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
C230 Sports Coupe
from what randy has posted earlier he stated that with K&N air filters there may be a small hp increase but mostly its most just a faster spool up time with turbo and superchargered cars. So basically if i am going to get a chip or a pully i will definatly get a air filter too. cause with K&N or ITG, you can use it over and over and over. Plus its not really that much $ either.