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Old 03-04-2003, 08:14 PM
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Question HID Lights

Has anyone heard of, or used this product before? Looks like a pretty good deal.

http://www.nextcollection.com/html/O...-4849-none.cfm
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I've bought that kit for $350. Don't recall where anymore - so look around. THe ballasts are hella.

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P.S. Great kit - as far as completeness and neatness
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Thats a great kit. I have it on my car. The price you mentioned is sooo cheap. I doubt anyone will sell it that cheap. Anyways, PM me if you want a better price than that website. I can ask around for you.
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Thanks, Ill keep your contact info Brabus
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wow.... 9000K. i wouldn't touch those... not even 8000K. you can't see anything on the road. i had 4300K on my bimmer, then switched to 6000K. both lit up the road nicely. but i could already see the difference between 4300K and 6000K. i can't imagine what you can see w/9000K.

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I agree with SiLvaC32, how can you see anything from a 9000?

I have 7000 on my car and wish that i had gotten 6000...
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you can't see anything on the road
Why is that? Does a higher "K" kit light up the road less?

BrabusCclass... Could you eloborate on what the illumination is like on the 9000k kit in comparison to the stock halogen setup?
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"K" corresponds roughly to how "blue" the light is. Black body radiation and all that.

Most people can see better in white light rather than blue light, but blue looks neat.

Since I personally do not care how I "look" to other drivers (as long as I am not blinding them) the stock Mercedes HID (which I believe are 6000 K (??) are perfect for me.
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OEM HIDs are rated at 4300k. There is no such thing as a 6000k OEM HID buld. The reason why some cars such as BMWs and AUDIs have a purplelish look is because of their projector design.

It has nothing to do with the temperature rating. We all have the same OSRAM HID bulb.

Take a look at this website for more info on HIDs: HID FAQ
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Thanks, TomGuy - I've never actually seen a rating on the OEM lights, and I just took the lowest number I'd heard about. 4300K sounds reasonable given the light I see in front of me - I've dealt with K values as a photographer and videographer.

One thing, DaBeze - unless you are in it purely for looks - DON'T go with "blue" halogen bulbs. You WILL get poorer vision. I went through that on my 993, and finally upgraded to the "real" thing, mostly for safety reasons!

However, TomGuy, I don't see how the projector design would make a difference in color - I'll read the FAQ.
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I'm guessing that the difference in color is the way each projector was designed and how it's use to refract light like a prism. I've tried the same kit in different cars and each car would produce a different color. Some are more purple whereas some are blueish white.

But just a warning for all those all there, 6000k HIDs produce less lumens than a 4300k so it's a matter of if you're looking for looks or usability. I prefer to have more light on the road. That's why HIDs were created right? Not to blind other people with a purple beam.

I've tried the 6000k kits and even a 5300k kit. They don't produce the same amount of light as a 4300k. The 4300k will probably look more yellow but it all depends on your housing. I've noticed the lexus are very good at their light dissipation and produce a nice white beam.

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Thanks, TomGuy - I've never actually seen a rating on the OEM lights, and I just took the lowest number I'd heard about. 4300K sounds reasonable given the light I see in front of me - I've dealt with K values as a photographer and videographer.

One thing, DaBeze - unless you are in it purely for looks - DON'T go with "blue" halogen bulbs. You WILL get poorer vision. I went through that on my 993, and finally upgraded to the "real" thing, mostly for safety reasons!

However, TomGuy, I don't see how the projector design would make a difference in color - I'll read the FAQ.
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Honestly more than anything, it depends on housing and if its projectile lense. HIDs seem to work a lot better with Projectiles. You guys say the you cant see anything with 9000K but come to LA and Ill show you on the A4. You see everything much better. I have 4800K in a civic and you cant see squat. The 7500K in my mercedes is ok but its nothing near as good as on a JDM conversion integra. I have put in HIDS in all sorts of cars, and no matter what you think its all about the housing. Without the right housing your beam will be dispersed and will look very poor. My OEM C43 xenons SUCK. I hate them the most. I cant see anything thats over 1-2 feet in front of the car.
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I agree with you on the housing. However the bulb temperature makes a difference on the amount of lumens though. So a 4300k in the A4 should be brighter than the 9000k.

Projector lens are ideal for HIDs for their wide dispersal pattern and sharp cutoffs. Reflector lenses, in my opinion, blinds people. Reflector takes a lot more designing to disperse the light thus it's more difficult to get a good beam by retrofitting a halogen reflector housing.

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Honestly more than anything, it depends on housing and if its projectile lense. HIDs seem to work a lot better with Projectiles. You guys say the you cant see anything with 9000K but come to LA and Ill show you on the A4. You see everything much better. I have 4800K in a civic and you cant see squat. The 7500K in my mercedes is ok but its nothing near as good as on a JDM conversion integra. I have put in HIDS in all sorts of cars, and no matter what you think its all about the housing. Without the right housing your beam will be dispersed and will look very poor. My OEM C43 xenons SUCK. I hate them the most. I cant see anything thats over 1-2 feet in front of the car.

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