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HellsAngel 11-07-2009 07:13 AM

Maximum size spacers
 
Well i am running a non staggered setup : 18x8... & i think, as most of you will agree, spacers are a must... however before ordering i was wondering whats the maximum size spacers i can buy... (i am probably ordering from ebay.de since i am in europe now)...
check below pictures :
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen..._16.07-01-.jpg
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen..._16.10-01-.jpg
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen..._16.11-01-.jpg
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...8-09_16.12.jpg

thanks..

TemjinX2 11-07-2009 07:15 AM

i'm running 15mm and 12mm hubcentric spacers without any problems. But there on 19 x 8.5 wheel.

HellsAngel 11-07-2009 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by TemjinX2 (Post 3800368)
i'm running 15mm and 12mm hubcentric spacers without any problems. But there on 19 x 8.5 wheel.

i was thinking 30mm in the back... (of course hubcentric, i'm going H&R or Eibach).....

TemjinX2 11-07-2009 07:23 AM

i think frankw is the best person to ask.

HellsAngel 11-07-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by TemjinX2 (Post 3800373)
i think frankw is the best person to ask.

i know, & i am waiting :D

ciacia 11-07-2009 08:45 AM

What are the offset of the wheels? I'm not sure if coupe's offset is the same as sedan's W203, but i think the maximum offset for unmodified fenders (for sedan) should be +30, this should count for normal W203 as well as AMG.

i think running 30mm spacer would not be safe, you would have to use extra long bolts as well. Normally 15mm would be sufficient and most producers would only recommend that width at the max. I myself have used 20mm (hubcentric) at the front and rear. While driving on highways (hi speed), there were no problem with shuddering at all, but it affected the handling so much that it made the car understeer a lot. I would recommend staying below 20mm.

At the moment i am using 8mm spacer at the back to have the rear wheel sits flush to the fender, currently the effective ET is +29 (normal ET is +37). Like below...

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m...0ME/SNEAK2.jpg

HellsAngel 11-07-2009 08:55 AM

the offset of my wheels is 35mm...
15mm spacers will push the wheels 15mm on each side ? on 15mm in total ?
maybe you understeered because of your 20mm FRONT spacers ?

ciacia 11-07-2009 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by HellsAngel (Post 3800440)
the offset of my wheels is 35mm...
15mm spacers will push the wheels 15mm on each side ? on 15mm in total ?
maybe you understeered because of your 20mm FRONT spacers ?

15mm spacers will push the wheels outwards (on each side), therefore your effective ET is +20. On W203 sedan, that kind of offset will push the wheels to sit out from the standard fenders. Mind you though, i found that the right side offset is less than the left side offset on the W203 sedan.

And yes i did understeer a lot when i used the 20mm spacers on the front.

FrankW 11-07-2009 06:03 PM

there is no right or wrong answer for spacers. anything larger than 15mm spacer they are designed to bolt onto the hub first and then use the lug nuts instead of the lug bolts.

as for how thick do you want to use. that's up to how you want it to look. 15mm for your rear would be decent.

HellsAngel 11-07-2009 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by FrankW (Post 3800976)
there is no right or wrong answer for spacers. anything larger than 15mm spacer they are designed to bolt onto the hub first and then use the lug nuts instead of the lug bolts.

as for how thick do you want to use. that's up to how you want it to look. 15mm for your rear would be decent.

excuse my newbie"ness" in wheels setups, but 15mm wouldnt give me any rubbing or whatever issue ? do i need longer bolts ?
thank you :bow:

HellsAngel 11-24-2009 03:03 AM

i found h&r 10mm spacers but it says that they are not hubcentric.. is that ok ?

"Total Track Widening 20mm (10mm Each Side) Flat Spacers (Not Hubcentric)"

TemjinX2 11-24-2009 07:52 AM

do not buy non hubcentric spacers unless you like having wheel vibrations when you drive.

10mm hubcentric spacer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel...ht_1490wt_1086

tommy 11-24-2009 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by FrankW (Post 3800976)
there is no right or wrong answer for spacers. anything larger than 15mm spacer they are designed to bolt onto the hub first and then use the lug nuts instead of the lug bolts.

as for how thick do you want to use. that's up to how you want it to look. 15mm for your rear would be decent.

Hmm - my 20 mm H&Rs did not do as you indicated, and I never had a problem with them.

The 20s I had were for my stock 17's - haven't had spacers on my summer rims yet - they are 18x8 like yours, so I'm interested in your results. But I'd guess that 12-15 would probably be best.

HellsAngel 11-24-2009 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by TemjinX2 (Post 3823449)
do not buy non hubcentric spacers unless you like having wheel vibrations when you drive.

10mm hubcentric spacer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel...ht_1490wt_1086

thanks for the link but i'd rather order from europe... + id like to stick with H&R / Eibach....


Originally Posted by tommy (Post 3823456)
Hmm - my 20 mm H&Rs did not do as you indicated, and I never had a problem with them.

The 20s I had were for my stock 17's - haven't had spacers on my summer rims yet - they are 18x8 like yours, so I'm interested in your results. But I'd guess that 12-15 would probably be best.

well im having troube finding 15mm H&R, its 10 or 20.. and the vendors that sell the 15mm spacers are asking too much...
i will keep you updated if i find 15mm H&R's in europe for a decent price...

tommy 11-24-2009 12:41 PM

OK, good luck. Looking forward to seeing what you end up with.

LinDenKid 11-24-2009 06:27 PM

:topic:, you see the way your grill shines? , stop being cheap and take it to a body shop(say no to spray paint) lol.:smash:

HellsAngel 11-25-2009 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by LinDenKid (Post 3824322)
:topic:, you see the way your grill shines? , stop being cheap and take it to a body shop(say no to spray paint) lol.:smash:

of course it will shine, it has the sun in its face ????

HellsAngel 06-29-2010 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by TemjinX2 (Post 3800368)
i'm running 15mm and 12mm hubcentric spacers without any problems. But there on 19 x 8.5 wheel.


Originally Posted by ciacia (Post 3800433)
Normally 15mm would be sufficient and most producers would only recommend that width at the max. I myself have used 20mm (hubcentric) at the front and rear. While driving on highways (hi speed), there were no problem with shuddering at all, but it affected the handling so much that it made the car understeer a lot. I would recommend staying below 20mm.


Originally Posted by ciacia (Post 3800456)
15mm spacers will push the wheels outwards (on each side), therefore your effective ET is +20. On W203 sedan, that kind of offset will push the wheels to sit out from the standard fenders.


Originally Posted by FrankW (Post 3800976)
15mm for your rear would be decent.


Originally Posted by TemjinX2 (Post 3823449)
do not buy non hubcentric spacers unless you like having wheel vibrations when you drive.


Originally Posted by tommy (Post 3823456)
Hmm - my 20 mm H&Rs did not do as you indicated, and I never had a problem with them.
The 20s I had were for my stock 17's - haven't had spacers on my summer rims yet - they are 18x8 like yours, so I'm interested in your results. But I'd guess that 12-15 would probably be best.

i ordered 15mm hucentric spacers for the rear yesterday, i'll post pictures as soon as i reiceve and install !

tommy 06-29-2010 07:05 PM

looking forward to the results.

do you have wider tires on the rear?

HellsAngel 06-30-2010 01:16 AM

no i was a noob at the moment :D


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