FrankW

per wheel?

joyofcola

well i have to defend myself on my side of things.. i found out from another member that i was going to buy rims from that he shipped his rims to some guy in canada and he said putting it as a gift i will be waived from duty.. but i never told gary to declare it for 1 dollar.. or maybe he assumed since i dont want to pay tax that declaring the lowest value would do..and gary i did say we split the repair not asking u to pay in full i have all email to prove that i didnt ask u to write 1 dollar as declare value and that i asked for half repair and not in full cuz i said im responsible since i asked to put down gift...however i did not know that you cant buy insurance for a gift....well that being said...the paypal issue was an idea from my friend saying since i cant do anything on my end as a buyer the only claim i can make is through paypal...well what do you guys expect me to do I pay to buy these wheels and they are just lying there....im just worst comes to worst if ups dun do anything i think splitting the cost for repair is reasonable

joyofcola

honestly i didnt know writing as a gift equals declaring a dollar.....well from what gary has putted out there all hate is on me and he shouldn't be asked to pay for anything am I right? But can anyone tell me is it true if you write a parcel as a gift you cannot buy shipping insurance????

joyofcola

and if u guys like i have all the messages from here nad hotmail to say i never asked him to put declare value as 1 i just said it once to say to write it as a gift cuz thts what i was taught from another member here....honestly this upsets me...after an email with gary last night and he posts everything when i cannot defend myself on my part

JLD2k3

You guys need to have a long telephone conversation and work it out between the two of you.

nlpamg

look, I think you're mostly to blame in this situation. you knew this was a big ticket item that would be going across the border and you wanted to save a few bucks by avoiding custom's duties. normally, on a small $50 item, I would say sure. but we all know how bad UPS is and how they don't really care about your package. you're the one that asked Gary to label it a gift in order to avoid customs duties, therefore, in order to avoid the duties, he had to declare the value as $1.

Gary isn't a shop and it's not fair to him to have to refund you the full amount of money AND pay for shipping back to him.

we all know paying $250 to repair one TSW bremma wheel is far too much, you can already buy a new one for that much.

why don't you guys come to sort of mutual understanding rather than dragging this all out.

one solution is for you to keep the wheels and do what you wish to them and Gary refunds you $400 (2 wheels at $200 per wheel, so it's between both of your guys' estimates) and you can find a shop to repair them for you locally.

joyofcola

once again i didnt ask for full refund... i asked for split the repair cost

RW C55

How bad is the damage on the rims tho? Do they HAVE TO be repaired?

HellsAngel

as gary said, he sold the wheels for "$1100-5% paypal fee= $1045-$360+/- shipping charge = $685"...
If he refunds 400$, then he would have sold the wheels for 285$ which is ridiculous...
and btw, i think it would be stupid to pay 800$ to repair the wheels, i'd much rather buy new wheels... tsw's are worth around 200$ NEW in 19's...(not black, no timeattack of course.....)

HellsAngel

pretty bad, i think there was another thread with the pictures...

joyofcola

if you can find a set new let me know

nlpamg

oh man, I didn't even see that. I thought he had charged him a little bit more at least.

in that case, I take it back. it's not worth Gary giving him $400 at all. I think Gary has gone on for long enough for this small amount. how about just giving him $200, let him keep the wheels and call it a day?

I agree about not repairing the TSW's, definitely not worth it.

HellsAngel

discounttiredirect.com have the chrome 1's for 224$, silver should be cheaper....
they also sell replicas for 160$ (black available)...
but i dont know if they ship to canada or if you will have to pay taxes or...

i think it would depend on if tires were included, and if they are usable or HAVE to be replaced...

joyofcola

checked already...i checked everywhere for a staggered set up before hopping on gary's wheels they either have just the fronts or just rears so I know there arent any new ones man...new ones of course i know i need to pay tax....well its just stupid of me to think that I shouldnt be paying duty for used items how about that...

joyofcola

i'm just saying that he agreed on the deal i allowed him to get a quote before settling on the deal to the price to include shipping its not like i tricked him into it knowing it will cost more than he quoted me....

HellsAngel

no one said you did, lol

joyofcola

honestly....how could you include the 400 if u do that then since i have to pay for repairs tht means i paid 1500 for a used set of TSW

joyofcola

then you can't say he is just selling at that price cua at first his quote was way less than that i have messages as proof honestly im tired of this if you all think he shouldnt be responsible what can i say...you guys don't know the entire story and how everything went down we asked well he asked for help not to take sides....since all of you are tight with him i have nothing to say

RW C55

Must have missed the thread.. can anybody post a link please

joyofcola

the thread was removed.....btw u live in van you know of any repair shops other than, greens, nu-brite, panther, shinez, ive checked all of them ...hah if u like u can check the wheels out in person....just wondering did i sell u a set of hnr springs before

RW C55

check ur pm

howardyudoing

totally off topic but i think gordon's current wheels look better. lol sorry.

B189s

Yes, $200-$250 range per wheel is about the right price here in Toronto area and most TSW wheels go for 280-300 per wheels for 19' before taxes and shipping in Canada.

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for the cost you bought them for couldnt you get them new?

B189s

I think the answer to your question is on post #39