Lexani1217

Okay, so I was talking to Cory, a representative from Kleemann. I got an 05 c230 (m271), and i'm interested in these mods: Header, downpipe with integrated high-flow catalyst, new factory exhaust manifold gasket, and all necessary fasteners/hardware. ($650) The kit includes a larger crank pulley, smaller water pump pulley, K&N air filter, and ECU programming. (Which I think is something like that K-Box kit?) [$1300].

"If we're talking about wheel HP, here's what I would expect:

Headers: 12-15 wheel HP improvement

Software alone: 12-15 HP

Pulley kit and software: 25-30 HP

Pulley, headers and software: about 40-45 wheel HP."

That is the email that he sent me, now I wanted to double check with you all, and I have been reading a lot. However, I have gotten mixed reviews, but I want to know if what he is saying is true. The total comes out to $1900, and money is not really an issue for me, I just want to know how much honesty is in this.

Thanks guys.

Mu9enx

Ask for dynocharts. I think that is what a lot of C63 folks in their forums are also asking for.

Lexani1217

i will, but does that sound pretty good to you? and he said if i do not get the results he mentioned, he would work out some kind of credit with me.

Petje

I have the Headers + Car on my W204 C180K (M271 Engine)

I like it alot, more torque, more power.... was deff. a good choise for me.
Dont have Dyno numbers...

I you take the whole package, it must be good, im sure...

Dont know if you will get the 40-45 hp extra on the wheels, but im sure you will have more power!!!

Just a pose picture

Lexani1217

haha nicee, that looks really good by any change did you get an ecu tune also? i know the ecu tune makes the engine work much harder, but does the shorten the life span of ur car?

HellsAngel

40-45 whp for 1900 is cheap.. if money is not an issue, even if you get less than 45whp it would still be good enough to make a big difference...

LILBENZ230

40-45whp? Really?

I'm gonna need to see dyno charts, as well.

Mu9enx

That's what I mean. It sounds really good, but it's always good to know if what it sounds like is really true. 45whp is a LOT.

TemjinX2

why don't you just get the eurocharged crank pulley, header and tune combo instead its cheaper. There combo is $1400 and eurcharged is a respected sponsor on the forum. Most of the c32/srt6 guys run there products. Myself included.

I would PM lounge14...he can probably hook you up with a pretty good deal.

http://www.eurocharged.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=65

Lexani1217

TemjinX2: What are you gains from what you have gotten from eurocharged?

and i mean he said if i dont not see the gains that he has quoted he would work some sort of credit out, so I do not have much to lose to i cuz 40whp is quite a lot.

TemjinX2

i would just PM lounge14 or Eurocharged. There the most qualified to answer your question. I'm just providing a cheaper alternative with a vendor that has a very good reputation in the quality of there products and customer service.

Petje

No i havent aan ECU tune, they dont have it yet for my ECU, its a different (new) difficult reprogramable ECU.

Thought the W203 have Siemens SIM4LKE and i have a SIM271LKE

infected

For the small difference in price I would personally choose Kleemann. The header/cat/dp combo alone already has an improvement of around 20hp 20 tq to the crank over stock. With the pulley and tune, I wouldn't be surprised to see an extra 30hp to the wheels.
I recall a few members having issues with overheating after the pulley but it wasn't from Kleemann so I don't know if it will be the same, just something to keep in mind.

Lexani1217

infected, i agree with you, i would def. go with kleemann but eurocharged is quite reputable. i know for sure i want to do the header combo, but yea i am a lil scared to do the pulley package. i mean i live in VA, where in the winter it can get really cold, and in the summer it usually is around 90 degrees.