c32///

hey guys, i just got a c320 for a good deal, but i wanna strap an amg supercharger on it. Now i know, i know, i have to lower boost....blah blah blah. Anyways so im getting the OEM supercharger soon. What kind of power rating should i expect? 0-60 times near c32 or naw? and LASTLY, it has the amg rims and body kit, IS IT WORTHY OF A C32 AMG SIGN OR V6 KOMPRESSOR OR NOOOT? let me know wht you think

OneOfaKindTrini

Hmm, you may want to do some searches on kleemann

http://www.kleemann.dk/Performance/P...ompressor.aspx

If you can get your hands on the parts well..

c32///

yeah, i know, but i already ordered the amg s/c so im just waiting for it. Im wondering if its gunna run dead nuts with c32s or will it even beat my e500?

OneOfaKindTrini

These are more difference between the C32 and the non AMG w203.. More than just AMG bolted on a s/c. So no I doubt it'll run dead nuts with a c32, but it'll move. Are you going to get a retune?

c32///

of course brakes, suspension, some internals of the m112 motor are diffrent, but really those things will only make a small diffrence in times. I will have to get a retune, ECU remap, amg brakes...etc. Theres no point of having 330 or whatever its gunna push out without the braking power. But like i want it to feel like a whole diffrent car:P do you think i can acheive it with a s/c?!

OneOfaKindTrini

Yeah, with a deeper exhaust, stiffer suspension, and the AMG s/c it will feel like a different car.

c32///

suspensions gunna have to wait , i have a spare c32 exhaust lying around, i can weld that on i dont know if its gunna make a diffrence, they almsot sound very similar.

TemjinX2

unless you plan on doing all the work yourself, it probably would've been cheaper to buy another c32. You should be able to keep up with a stock c32 until you eventually blow your bottom end since the pistons and rods are a lot weaker on a c320 then a c32.

c32///

yeah well thats the plan, im doing it all myself as a project cause i got it for cheap,im still keeping my c32. What do you mean? yeah there weaker for sure, but i can replace them, besides like i said im doing all the work. So temjin you think it'll do 0-60 in 5 secs or less?

TemjinX2

well the kleemann sc version claims it adds 113hp to the crank. So 113 +215 = 328hp so its very close to the c32. Obviously you can run more boost with the oem setup, but the question is how much hp can the c320 block take before it goes boom.

Since no one has done it before your not going to know until you blow it.

Unfortunately there no aftermarket pistons and rods for the m112. So you would either have to buy oem c32 pistons and rods or go custom.

I would've just taken the money you spent on the c320 and just bore c32 block to 3.7L with maybe a s350 or ml350 crank. It probably would've taken you over 400whp on a dynojet, with supporting mods of course.

Unfortunately, we have to pay the mercedes tax on labor and parts, so building these blocks aren't cheap. Where as i could have a honda block built and sleeved to 500whp for $2500.

c32///

thats true...but the problem is i looked at the c320 kleeman and it says 0-60 is like 6 esconds. Doesnt make sense to me, and its not like im going to take it to the track ehh. I just plan on enjoying it when a 3 series comes by. Not a 335 though

TemjinX2

i'm sure you can hit sub 5second 0-60. There c32's hitting below 5second 0-60 with just better tires.

You should go off of 1/4 times and trap speeds if you want numbers thats more of a indication of performance...unless you really want to beat that 3 series to the freeway ramp..lol

Buellwinkle

What do all the parts to make a C32 motor out of a C320 motor cost? Besides the S/C there are so many parts like the intake, the IC, the heat exchanger, etc. Did you get them from a salvage yard?

c32///

well i dont plan on changing everything asap, cause i really dont care i can drive my other cars, but i can get an intake from the forum for appx200. Heat exchanger ill wait and stuff. The c32 supercharger isnt from a salvage yard, im in Canada so i cant really find salvaged mbs. Should i put the amg logo and take the 0 off after that or naw?

QuadBenz

I wouldn't. It's not a real AMG car no matter what you do to it. Your VIN will always show that it's a C320.

TemjinX2

screw it man...just do a ls2 swap.

c32///

c32///

BUN THAT! i wouldnt be caught dead with an american engine in my hood

TemjinX2

fine 2jz then...

c32///

no'fence though man..its just me

TemjinX2

lol i didnt take it as a insult. just throwing some ideas out there..lol.

W203E35

American engines aren't bad. The LS2 is a great engine and it loves to be boosted The 2JZ is a great engine as well. If you want it as a project car then the supercharger is a bad idea. You'll be disappointed because I don't think you'll come close to the stock C32 power.

Good Luck

c32///

not at all, its just an opinion and im sure there great to be boosted:P. lol by project i didnt mean like just keep adding stuff haha...like a car to drive everyday but still be pretty quick, so it'll be project for like 2 months than an everday'r. Um by come close how much hp are we talking? cause like other people said kleemans does 330hp, but amgs/c runs at a higher boost. As long as im acheiving 320ish id be fine. just pass the 300 mark with ease im good

W203E35

I think you'll pass the 300hp (crank) mark easily. Do you know how much the psi is on the supercharger? Your compression is 10.0 and you have to be very careful with high psi.

The C32 engine is built for forced induction but the m112 isn't so you have to be careful not the blow the engine with high psi. I wanna say with the 10.0:1 compression ration you should make sure not to run over 8psi (over 7 to be on the safe side).

With an IC and heat exchanger and a good tune I think you can pull 8psi easily but don't really know how long it'll last

c32///

but i swear the m112 motor can handle like 20psi from what i heard