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Old 05-03-2003 | 05:16 PM
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Thumbs up Good News On Pagid Pads

I just installed the front Pagid brake pads, and the version I got DOES have the hole for the brake wear sensor (see the attached pics)!! But there is only one sensor on the passenger side, and no sensor on the driver side, correct??

Installation was pretty smooth, except getting the old pads out was kinda tricky because the rotors are tapered along the edge. So need some careful force to pull the calipers out.

BTW, is "Lucas" a brand name or something else? This word was stamped on the caliper, the stock pads, and the Pagid pads (although the metal plate does have the PAGID name printed).
Old 05-03-2003 | 05:17 PM
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Old 05-03-2003 | 05:20 PM
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Old 05-03-2003 | 05:38 PM
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"But there is only one sensor on the passenger side, and no sensor on the driver side, correct??"

Correct for the back brakes (at least this is true on my C320). There should be sensors on both front brakes.
Old 05-03-2003 | 09:18 PM
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The sensor and wiring is only only the front passanger side. Maybe another cost cutting on the C230K...
Old 05-03-2003 | 11:39 PM
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where did you get the pads from and for how much?
Old 05-04-2003 | 12:09 AM
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Question Re: Good News On Pagid Pads

Originally posted by 20FHK02
I just installed the front Pagid brake pads, and the version I got DOES have the hole for the brake wear sensor (see the attached pics)!! But there is only one sensor on the passenger side, and no sensor on the driver side, correct??

Installation was pretty smooth, except getting the old pads out was kinda tricky because the rotors are tapered along the edge. So need some careful force to pull the calipers out.

BTW, is "Lucas" a brand name or something else? This word was stamped on the caliper, the stock pads, and the Pagid pads (although the metal plate does have the PAGID name printed).
Where did you get your pads with the senor holes? I've found a place, but I'm not sure which to buy.

http://www.epsparts.com/category/230.130.300.110/
Pagid Pads Here
Old 05-04-2003 | 02:29 AM
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I bought them from buymbparts.com for about $94. They offer free shipping for order over $75 so I also bought the rear pads because I will need them eventualy.

I ordered them on one evening and the package arrived at 10am the next morning! This was the fastest online shopping I ever had!

But I'm not sure if they are real Pagid pads because I saw the word Lucas stamped on them, same word on the stock pads. Anyway, as long as the dust is reduced and braking power unchanged, I don't care what brand it is.
Old 05-04-2003 | 11:25 AM
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I looked at that site that CHATMANR posted and where they sold brake pad sensors, it said this:

"203 Chassis: All models 2 on front, 1 on rear except C230 CL Kompressor and C240"

So I'm guessing it's normal that you only have one front brake pad sensor.

And let us know if it really does dust less. There seemed to be some confusion in the past over whether or not Pagids are sometimes the original pads.
Old 05-04-2003 | 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Matt230K
I looked at that site that CHATMANR posted and where they sold brake pad sensors, it said this:

"203 Chassis: All models 2 on front, 1 on rear except C230 CL Kompressor and C240"

So I'm guessing it's normal that you only have one front brake pad sensor.

And let us know if it really does dust less. There seemed to be some confusion in the past over whether or not Pagids are sometimes the original pads.
Any chance you could check with the techs you work with? Thanx.
Old 05-04-2003 | 01:37 PM
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Lucas is a brand name. They market all kinds of parts and are an OEM-supplier for lots of European makes.

Since someone here mentioned that at least some MBs come with Pagid-made pads as OEM, it could be that Lucas also has Pagid make pads for them. It does raise an interesting question, though. Brake pads can be made to all sorts of specs, and Pagid could be making pads of several different specs for their various re-sellers. That means that just buying Pagid pads for the C-class may NOT get you what you want. It may be necessary to find out the actual part number and find a distributor that markets the EXACT version of Pagids that reduces rake dust. Since the OEM MB Pagids reportedly dust as badly as the stock C-class pads, seems that not all Pagids are created equal.

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that would suck if I spent about 220 dollars for no reason....
Old 05-04-2003 | 03:58 PM
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20FHK02, How are your pads working... do they squeel and or give off brake dust. How do they relate to the Stock pads... If Anyone else has 20FHK02 Pads please respond also (only if u purchased them from the same place and have the same part number)?
Old 05-04-2003 | 04:41 PM
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I posted a question on the brake sensor topic about a month ago and it was confirmed by mbtech208 that yes indeed there is only a sensor on the right hand side of the vehicle. You can check this yourself. On the right hand side you will see two wire enter the wheel well. On the left hand side, you only see one and a plug that seems to be un-connected.

That was my original question, by the way - I thought I had a defect.

Here's the thread --

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=34277

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Old 05-04-2003 | 05:01 PM
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20FHK02, How are your pads working... do they squeel and or give off brake dust. How do they relate to the Stock pads... If Anyone else has 20FHK02 Pads please respond also (only if u purchased them from the same place and have the same part number)?
My stocks were 60% worn so I'll be needing new pads soon anyway. Hopefully these are the "another kind" of Pagids.

But it has been raining all week over here so it's hard to judge the dust issue. I'll check when the weather clears up.

webbersworld: Do your Pagids have a hole for the sensor? I read on another post that you said that the installer didn't plug in the sensor or something. I'm curious since we bought from the same source. And, how's the dust issue now?
Old 05-04-2003 | 06:07 PM
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do they feel diffrent than stock.. or is that common
Old 05-04-2003 | 07:07 PM
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well......

I bought the sensors and was gonna get the shop to put them in for me, but i had an unfortunate experience. Refer to my thread entitled, "F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!", or something of that nature. When I get my car back I will let you all know. I bought 2 sensors from MB for 17.50 or so. I believe they were 8.75 each.

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Old 05-04-2003 | 07:36 PM
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The sensor is just plug and play. I remember it can be done without taking off the brakes.
Old 05-04-2003 | 07:41 PM
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20FHK02, Do yours feel the same as the stocks?
Old 05-04-2003 | 09:03 PM
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I'll give a report later. I just put it on yesterday. I can't say anything at this moment as it has been raining lately so I don't drive much.
Old 05-04-2003 | 09:14 PM
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ok thanks because my light came on so i need to pick some pads... i read that pagid brakes are stock on our cars.. and the site buymbparts.com sells OEM **** so it is decieving to me. the money to me isnt the issue and i would get the porterfields but it diesnt have a sensor hole. so i wanted the pagids so ya i am awaiting ur report
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Old 05-04-2003 | 09:35 PM
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In short, the feel is pretty much the same. I don't drive hard so I can't tell the difference is braking power. My main concern is the dust issue, which will be determined later.
Old 05-04-2003 | 10:04 PM
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agreed..

I drove with the pagids for 2 days, and they felt the same, as if nothing had been changed on the car. I never actually got a chance to see if there was a difference in dust yet.

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Old 05-05-2003 | 08:41 PM
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How are ur pads working sofar... i need new pads soon and i want to know if ur pads differ from stock
Old 05-06-2003 | 12:11 AM
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Sorry I have have them on for 2 days and basically just drove it for one day so I can't tell you yet. Give me a few more days then I'll tell you about the dust issue. As for performance vice, like I said before, it feels the same as stock.

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