theine

Michelin Pilot Sports if you want the best. You get what you pay for. Don't be cheap with your tires, you will regret it. As an agressive driver, if Michelin's last you 12,000 miles, every other one won't last you that long.

Matt230K

I can see you are one of the those people that Michelin has brainwashed into thinking that only their tires are good. I like my Pilot Sports, but I had Pilot XGT Z4's on my 325is and I hated them. If they started spinning in the wet, they would never grip, they would just keep spinning faster. Most tires eventually catch some grip and start moving. But these didn't. And I also don't like the Pilot SX MXX3 which is their most expensive. I can't figure out why it costs so much. I drove an SL with these and it handled terribly.

theine

It's not brainwashed my friend, it's experience. Over and over again. Just get the right ones for your car, and again don't be cheap, get the best, Michelin Pilot Sports.
By the way the Michelins XCX/APT on my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. have 45,500 miles on them and are the original tires, I think we will get al least 75,000 miles out of them.:p

DCXdynodog

A good therapist may be able to help

lars

I had a set of Pilot SX MXX3 tires on my Volvo S70 T5, a model with a reputation for eating front tires. I got 34,000 miles out of them and took them off a bit soon, but traction in the wet was falling off. The grip was just OK for Z-rated tires and not as good as the Yokohama A520s I replaced them with, especially in the rain.

However, while the Yokohamas had great grip, I will never buy a tire with that tread pattern again. They were just too noisy on dry pavement; it was like listening to snow tires. They also seemed to be wearing significantly faster than the Michelins but I sold the car before finding out.

BlackC230Coupe

yes, it is ALOT of wear, i think most of it is because i am having alignment problems and there is alot of negative camber on the rear, and to top it off i guess it also showing that i floor my car at almost every chance i get. Oh yeah, i have only done about 7-10 burn outs since i have had this car but they are very short about 5 seconds tops.

steve s

all-season tires are not necessarily better in wet than summer tires. michelin is simply expensive... had michelin pilot hx mxm (grand touring tires) on my wagon...quiet, but squealed like a pig and didn't have great grip and even more expensive than pilot sport. changed to pzero assym...soso...my size were prone to blowouts...straightline pretty good, handling ok, wet not so cool. changed to bridgestone s-02...loved them. they great in both wet and dry handling.

both the s-02 potenza pp on my wagon (front tires) and s-01 expedia on the c36 (rear tires) lasted around 20k miles. no rotation done throughout the 20k, so they're both on the drive tires. both cars have a ton more torque and hp than ur c230k...man, were u autocrossing? :p if u r looking into alignment problems, also make sure ur air pressure is correct...

btw, what size tires r u looking for?

pokerFACE

Has anybody used Yokohama AVS sport?

Petie

Kumhos are awful, just to throw in my $.02 from experience, dont buy them, they dont wear worth a damn, they cup, they are loud, and the performance is really not that good.....ive got a set now, cant wait for them to wear a bit more so i can get rid of them....

Matt230K

While we are talking about which tires are bad, let me say make sure you don't get Goodyear Eagle F1. These cup real easy and become very loud long before the tread is worn out. E430's used to have these as OEM tires. Several recent dealer trade-ins had to have tires replaced because of the noise, even though they had plenty of tread left to be starmark certified.

shtatc

I have Kumho Ecsta on my C240 now - they are running very well for now. I just drove from Phoenix to SF Bay Area to visit the parents - they were no louder than any other tire I have had on any other vehicle. Rained while I was at home during New Years and the tires handled well in the wet. So far, wear has even - have about 4000 miles on them - so, it may be too early to judge wear tendency. I had Conti SC on originally - I really liked them alot. I would have got them again if they were available - will look into the new Conti SC 2's the next time I need new tires. I am not all too aggressive - occasionally - but it seems that the tires we are all putting on our cars last about 12-15000 miles. I think that is the downside to higher performance tires - especially if the car is a daily driver. I think most of us do drive our cars alot - so tire wear will be generally higher. Anyways, I dont know if the higher temperature here in AZ, plus driving tendencies has a bigger factor in tire wear also. Since it is warmer all year long, one would think that tire wear for high performance tires would be greater. And with relatively no humidity in the air, tires may also wear down easier - just a thought, dont now the actual chemistry of it all. To me, get the best you can afford.

BlackC230Coupe

I do not autocross i just drive on normal streets, i guess u can say i am an aggresive driver but i think they still would last more than 5000 miles. my tire pressure is always checked and never gets lower than it should be.

Petie

problems with the noise come a little later, at first i had no complaints about the noise, and they did handle just fine in the rain. Next time you look at your tires, look and see if they arent wearing hard on the edges. I didnt notice anything at first, then when i took my rims off to paint my calipers, i looked at the inner edge on the tire....OUCH....worn at least 5 times as bad as the middle. My car has been aligned since i changed rims, has actually been aligned with this set of tires on, and still the uneven wear.....i could be wrong, but i dont think its me, i think its the tires........next set of street tires will be Yokohamas i think, for just daily driving im looking for cheap with good treadwear, track driving is a different story.

shtatc

I will keep an eye on this. I see you are in Charlotte - I will be in that area this summer - closer to Kannapolis. So, I will see how the tires wear in a more humid climate - or if it even makes a difference. The good thing is that I am getting my car shipped to Charlotte - to the MB dealer there. But I will have to drive the car back to AZ after the summer. Just is frustrating when you have to buy tires every year....

lamscott

I don't know how long it is but it is lodged into my brand new sp 9000's. Do you guys think I should take it out. The screw isn't lodged into the inside groove. Does anybody know a good tire shop in san francisco that I could get this fixed at.

Mark08859

If your tires aren't already flat or if they are only slowly losing air, do not remove the screw. Any decent tire shop or even local garage/gas station should be able to do a basic repair. if you are offered the choice, have the tire repaired from the inside with a patch instead of from the outside with a plug. Good luck.

Clownburner

Try America's Tire company. They do excellent work, and best of all, they will repair punctured tires (correctly, with patches, not plugs) for FREE.

Awful nice of 'em, if you ask me.


Check the list of Bay Area stores here:
Store Locator for San Fran

And DO NOT remove the screw!!

20FHK02

You mean they repair any tires even the tires were not purchased from them??

Lockbuster

Plugs are crap in my opinion, I would never have a plug put in any of my tires.

Clownburner

Yep, for free. Cool, aint it? they do it to try and convince you that they're a good place to shop the next time you want to buy tires.

It worked on me, I usually buy tires there now. :-)

20FHK02

WOW! Impressive.

bagwell

How do you like the tires as far as comfort and low noise ?

I have Mich Pilot Sports and don't like them due to the stiff sidewalls..I don't want or need a track tire...looking for low noise and comfort !

zimmer26

Get an all season/touring tire, but due to the short sidewall on our 17s don't expect a huge improvement, unless you go with a 16+taller sidewall. You may want to dial down you tire pressure as well.

zimmer26

Oh yeah about the contis. They're basically junk, I don't find them loud but they absolutely suck in the rain (forget snow), and they wear out real fast. My rears are toasted already under 14k with no burnouts or abuse. Highly unrecommended!

Kar don

bagwell, try out the Dunlop SP9000. I drove on the bridgestone Potenza RE92 Z-rated tires on the new 2003 IS300, VERY QUIET. they are all season tires.