Ghostrider camber kit + 255's on rear
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Ghostrider camber kit + 255's on rear
I had Ghostrider's camber kit put on last week when I had new tires put on. I put 255/40's on in the rear (17" wheels). Thought I'd share a few pics (please excuse the filthy car). The rear now has -0.5 degress camber (I might have them move t to -1.0 degree). I have to believe this is about as wide as you can go on the stock type wheels/offsets.
Before (with 245/40's on the rear):
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b41.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b42.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b43.jpg)
After (255/40's + camber kit):
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af1.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af2.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af3.jpg)
The bump up to 255's made more of a difference than I thought they would. I haven't decided if I'll stay with this size or go back to 245's when I need tires again, but it's what I got so I'm living with them for a while...
Before (with 245/40's on the rear):
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b41.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b42.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_b43.jpg)
After (255/40's + camber kit):
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af1.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af2.jpg)
![](http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt169/mtnman82/203nt/side_af3.jpg)
The bump up to 255's made more of a difference than I thought they would. I haven't decided if I'll stay with this size or go back to 245's when I need tires again, but it's what I got so I'm living with them for a while...
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Absolutely correct, but I should be closer to actual speed now than with the 245's on the rear, which is one of the reasons I went this way. I had 225/45's all the way around in stock form, so the 245's would show 1.0% too fast but the 255's should show 0.2% too slow.
So with the 255's I'll really be going 120.2 mph when the speedo shows 120.0 (as opposed to 118.8 when the speedo shows 120.0 with the 245's).
So with the 255's I'll really be going 120.2 mph when the speedo shows 120.0 (as opposed to 118.8 when the speedo shows 120.0 with the 245's).
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Looks good. I had 255's with OEM wheels for a while and liked the look. Going to go back to 255's when I need new rear tires.
If the speedo being off bothers you, you can fix it via STAR.
If the speedo being off bothers you, you can fix it via STAR.
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Absolutely correct, but I should be closer to actual speed now than with the 245's on the rear, which is one of the reasons I went this way. I had 225/45's all the way around in stock form, so the 245's would show 1.0% too fast but the 255's should show 0.2% too slow.
So with the 255's I'll really be going 120.2 mph when the speedo shows 120.0 (as opposed to 118.8 when the speedo shows 120.0 with the 245's).
So with the 255's I'll really be going 120.2 mph when the speedo shows 120.0 (as opposed to 118.8 when the speedo shows 120.0 with the 245's).
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^ Nice picture on the 245s.
The wider tires do look good, and those wheels are sharp. What’s their offset?
How much camber did yours have before installing Ghostrider’s links? I’m running ~-1.4° (within specification at ride height for a code 486 chassis), yet cheated up total toe toward the high end of MB’s recommendation -0° 33’ [±15’]- to achieve relatively even wear across the treads. They still don’t last very long though.
Interested to read of your long-term feedback, too. TIA
The wider tires do look good, and those wheels are sharp. What’s their offset?
How much camber did yours have before installing Ghostrider’s links? I’m running ~-1.4° (within specification at ride height for a code 486 chassis), yet cheated up total toe toward the high end of MB’s recommendation -0° 33’ [±15’]- to achieve relatively even wear across the treads. They still don’t last very long though.
Interested to read of your long-term feedback, too. TIA
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to the OP, what was your reason to change tire size
and does your camber kit give u more positive camber, to me thats what it looks like,
the original tire gave u more of the tucked look, relative to the larger tire
and does your camber kit give u more positive camber, to me thats what it looks like,
the original tire gave u more of the tucked look, relative to the larger tire
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^ Nice picture on the 245s.
The wider tires do look good, and those wheels are sharp. What’s their offset?
How much camber did yours have before installing Ghostrider’s links? I’m running ~-1.4° (within specification at ride height for a code 486 chassis), yet cheated up total toe toward the high end of MB’s recommendation -0° 33’ [±15’]- to achieve relatively even wear across the treads. They still don’t last very long though.
Interested to read of your long-term feedback, too. TIA
The wider tires do look good, and those wheels are sharp. What’s their offset?
How much camber did yours have before installing Ghostrider’s links? I’m running ~-1.4° (within specification at ride height for a code 486 chassis), yet cheated up total toe toward the high end of MB’s recommendation -0° 33’ [±15’]- to achieve relatively even wear across the treads. They still don’t last very long though.
Interested to read of your long-term feedback, too. TIA
Yup, the reason for the camber kit was to add in some positive camber after I lowered it. The old tires were worn almost to the belts on the inside but still had substantial tread left on the outside, so decided to do something about it when I got the new tires. As I mentioned above, I'm going to have a little more negative camber put back in - I'll post some more pics when I do. Oh, the 255's were because it's closer to the stock diameter than the 245's plus I thought it might look nicer with a little more meat back there.
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Hey Splinter! Hope things are good for you. The offset's escape me at the moment, but they're the same as the '05 funnell wheels. I had a buddy of mine install the camber kit along with new tires and the alignment. I asked him to note the camber before but he 'forgot to'. I'm going to take it back in and have them adjusted for a tad more negative camber (isn't spec for the rear -0.6 to -1.6?) - thanks for the heads up on what you're running. I'll definitely report back after I've put some miles on.
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Yup, the reason for the camber kit was to add in some positive camber after I lowered it. The old tires were worn almost to the belts on the inside but still had substantial tread left on the outside, so decided to do something about it when I got the new tires. As I mentioned above, I'm going to have a little more negative camber put back in - I'll post some more pics when I do. Oh, the 255's were because it's closer to the stock diameter than the 245's plus I thought it might look nicer with a little more meat back there.
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Yup, the reason for the camber kit was to add in some positive camber after I lowered it. The old tires were worn almost to the belts on the inside but still had substantial tread left on the outside, so decided to do something about it when I got the new tires. As I mentioned above, I'm going to have a little more negative camber put back in - I'll post some more pics when I do. Oh, the 255's were because it's closer to the stock diameter than the 245's plus I thought it might look nicer with a little more meat back there.
Those 255’s should have been original fitment. As you well know from your Porsche experience, aft camber is dramatically affected by ride height (and the resultant angularity changes) while the suspension cycles through its travel. Surprisingly, our static rear ride heights appear to be virtually identical; this after having fitted H&R’s wagon springs and taller pads on mine.
Bump steer testing showed the expected change of increasing toe-in during rebound, although somewhat counterintuitively, toe tends to deflect outward during acceleration and lateral deflection loading on this chassis. Also experienced a similar inner wear pattern on too many prematurely discarded tires before tweaking its static toe-in.
Specific corner weighting techniques and alignment specifications available upon request.
![](http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb196/splintersAMG/W203RearCamber.jpg)
![](http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb196/splintersAMG/W203RearToe.jpg)