kleeman discontinues it's pulley??
05-28-2003, 02:02 PM
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kleeman discontinues it's pulley??
so is the only worthwhile option ASP's modified factory pulley??.... and is there any chance of a group buy on this??....
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ryan
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05-28-2003, 02:10 PM
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I figured the risk of running a solid alloy pulley would have scared them straight after ASP's experience, not worth their reputation. Just don't tell ASP, they'll raise their prices again which I believe is $360 if you supply the factory pulley and $650 if they do, an even bigger bargain now that the next cheapest pulley is about a grand more.
05-28-2003, 04:41 PM
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KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed). Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
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05-28-2003, 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed). Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed). Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
. KLEEMAN are you guys going to make intercooler for 2.3L kompressor engines or what? Particularly c230coupe of course.
05-29-2003, 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed). Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed). Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
Sounds to me like someone diden't wanna take a risk of a faliure since you never had one it always sounded to me like u were waiting for one.
05-29-2003, 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed).
KLEEMANN has discontinued production of the M111 solid alloy pulley- and it has nothing to do with what happened to ASP (why should it?? its not OUR pulley that failed).
Ring pulleys are also NLA.
Demand is not there, so supply is over when stocks run out, which is now.
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05-29-2003, 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by vadim
Very disappointing... You just can't stop bragging, which means that -either- you are trying to hide behind ASP and gracefully exit -or- you didn't understand a thing about internal tensions that were the most probable cause of the ASP's pulley failure *and* are inherent for this type of pulley design no matter who makes the pulley... By contrast, dealing with Lee of ASP made me a true believer in that company that stands behind its products. Isn't this the real reason why you lost your business in this segment?
Call ASP, maybe they'll give you a bulk deal?
Very disappointing... You just can't stop bragging, which means that -either- you are trying to hide behind ASP and gracefully exit -or- you didn't understand a thing about internal tensions that were the most probable cause of the ASP's pulley failure *and* are inherent for this type of pulley design no matter who makes the pulley... By contrast, dealing with Lee of ASP made me a true believer in that company that stands behind its products. Isn't this the real reason why you lost your business in this segment?
Call ASP, maybe they'll give you a bulk deal?
05-30-2003, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by tberry
Vadim i understand u're working with Powerchip Group on a chip for pullied c230k coupes. any news? thanks.
Vadim i understand u're working with Powerchip Group on a chip for pullied c230k coupes. any news? thanks.
05-30-2003, 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
Time to trade in your cyrstal ball- its not working any more.
Time to trade in your cyrstal ball- its not working any more.
I guess i should have expected a response like that.
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05-30-2003, 11:18 AM
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Thats what I love about the internet and forums- no matter what you say there will always be some who knows better- its always entertaining and dicy. :p
I fully inderstand rotational forces, material properties, FEA etc. Im not trying to exit from anything gacefully, etc. KLEEMANN has stopped production on many items over the years and will continue to do so when it makes no sense to continue with a product that has lived its lifespan. Read into it what you want.
I fully inderstand rotational forces, material properties, FEA etc. Im not trying to exit from anything gacefully, etc. KLEEMANN has stopped production on many items over the years and will continue to do so when it makes no sense to continue with a product that has lived its lifespan. Read into it what you want.
05-30-2003, 11:25 AM
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Brandon, you continue to draw heat even in a products post life, maybe it's because you're such a fun target. But the past is past, what interesting items are in the pipeline?
05-30-2003, 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
Thats what I love about the internet and forums- no matter what you say there will always be some who knows better- its always entertaining and dicy. :p
I fully inderstand rotational forces, material properties, FEA etc. Im not trying to exit from anything gacefully, etc. KLEEMANN has stopped production on many items over the years and will continue to do so when it makes no sense to continue with a product that has lived its lifespan. Read into it what you want.
Thats what I love about the internet and forums- no matter what you say there will always be some who knows better- its always entertaining and dicy. :p
I fully inderstand rotational forces, material properties, FEA etc. Im not trying to exit from anything gacefully, etc. KLEEMANN has stopped production on many items over the years and will continue to do so when it makes no sense to continue with a product that has lived its lifespan. Read into it what you want.
05-30-2003, 11:58 AM
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Kleemann/Brandon, I agree with Buell lets move on and see what you will continue to do for the 2.3L (w203) komp engines. How about a real cold-air intake, better intercooler, a chip/ECU program to take advantage of pulley/intercooler, etc...
Kleemann/Brandon, I agree with Buell lets move on and see what you will continue to do for the 2.3L (w203) komp engines. How about a real cold-air intake, better intercooler, a chip/ECU program to take advantage of pulley/intercooler, etc...
05-30-2003, 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
I doubt there will be anything new for the 2.3. It will be out of production soon. It's not like it's a small block Chevy with 10's of millions in existance and will be used by hot rodders and racers for years to come.
I doubt there will be anything new for the 2.3. It will be out of production soon. It's not like it's a small block Chevy with 10's of millions in existance and will be used by hot rodders and racers for years to come.
I really look forward to other mods, ie intercooler, chip, etc........
05-30-2003, 11:15 PM
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Maybe now that MB and Chrysler are one in the same maybe they'll create and aftermarket performance company, MBopar and sell us performance upgrades directly like a drop in Hemi kit for the coupe.
