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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 12:01 AM
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Im thinking of installing this

I went to car-toys to check out some navigation's and in-dash's
and there were two of them which I liked. Pioneer app radio and this pioneer AVH-P4400BH.
http://cartoys.com/products/product_...iver-w-iPod-BT
I really enjoyed the Bluetooth compatibility and my phone can stay in my pocket at all times and I can virtually control everything on the in-dash.
I at first wanted the Dynavin Mc2000 but i feel as if I'd be paying so much for basic features.
Now my question is, has anyone installed a double din in their W203 and how does it look? Do you like it? Or should I stick with the MC2000
Car toys is also offering to wire my steering wheel controls to the in-dash as well which I'd like.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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I have the Pioneer Z140BH and love it... double dins is the normal for our cars when upgrading... to keep your steering wheel function go with the AXXESS ASWC, best and easiest steering wheel adapter to me... it does a smart learn so all you have to do is press a button or two on the control and it sets up everything for you, takes less than 5mins.



the trick with our cars and installing an aftermarket HU is that when wiring your power wires the constant 12v and ign wire are switched on the harness. our cars use the same radio harness as the VW for the aftermarket radio, so when wiring them, switch the constant and ign wiring. for the illumination and ground wire, most tap into the cig wiring. Our cars use brown as the ground wire instead of black.

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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:19 AM
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heres my install

that was when I had my old Eclipse headunit, now have the Pioneer in.




Rest of the console is done in cf now
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by phister
I have the Pioneer Z140BH and love it... double dins is the normal for our cars when upgrading... to keep your steering wheel function go with the AXXESS ASWC, best and easiest steering wheel adapter to me... it does a smart learn so all you have to do is press a button or two on the control and it sets up everything for you, takes less than 5mins.



the trick with our cars and installing an aftermarket HU is that when wiring your power wires the constant 12v and ign wire are switched on the harness. our cars use the same radio harness as the VW for the aftermarket radio, so when wiring them, switch the constant and ign wiring. for the illumination and ground wire, most tap into the cig wiring. Our cars use brown as the ground wire instead of black.
Wow that is exactly what I was hoping the HU to look like!
Well cartoys would be doing the installation for me since they are offering to do it for free hehe
but I'll purchase that adapter ahead of time and tell them to use it when wiring the steering wheel function! I matter of fact just ordered the adapter
Im looking forward to installing the HU now
Thanks for the images and information mate!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:47 AM
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make sure car toys prices are right, they might say free but they might load that on the price of the parts. Call around and see how much other shops are charging for everything. sometimes buying the parts then having a shop install is cheaper. like ordering the double din mount and wire harness off ebay is cheaper. I only paid like 20-30 for the double din and harness. I eventually ordered the cf one I have now for like 120 or so.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by phister
make sure car toys prices are right, they might say free but they might load that on the price of the parts. Call around and see how much other shops are charging for everything. sometimes buying the parts then having a shop install is cheaper. like ordering the double din mount and wire harness off ebay is cheaper. I only paid like 20-30 for the double din and harness. I eventually ordered the cf one I have now for like 120 or so.
Hmm, they asked 68 bucks for the mount but i told him i'd provide my own mount. He told me the final price would be around $600 bucks and some change
But i have a custom trim as well so I'd have to order from ebay or amazon to color match my interior trim.

But if im not satisfied with the price at the time i purchase the dash I'll most likely do the double din myself
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 02:07 AM
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I don't know much about car audio, but my friend installed the AppRadio 2 in his Evo and it works fantastic!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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I had a double din nav installed in my C280 4matic with the adapter plate and all, but didnt like the look at all, it just looks plain out of place to be in a mercedes. Then I got my hand on an OEM command unit for like $400 and the install is a straight swap, it evene came with the OEM old map DVD. It was a super quick and easy install. The OEM unit looks like it belongs in there, with all the buttons light up and all......well functionality wise yes it just plays the MP3 and for other functions to be active I guess you need additional stuff, but the bottom line is it looks good OEM period......

If you are the Functinality kind of guy then go for aftermarket, but if you are like me and would like an OEM kind of look then go with the mercedes command unit; the bonus is also when you sell the car the value will appreciate with an OEM head unit where in an aftermarket case the value will depreciate......cause any mod take away from the value of the car in general....unless if you can find a buyer that will appreciate your mod..........

So an OEM command is a win win..........where as an aftermarket is not so....

Again this is just my opnion......do what suits you best and what you like...

If you are looking for a deal on an OEM command unit chcek out this web site www.car-parts.com, this is a complete US based auto parts recyclers web site and you can really find good a deal on a lot of parts....try the interchangable search and plug in the year from 2005-2007....I recently picked up a command for my newly aquired 2002 C230 6MT for $225 ...just insane....

hope this helps.

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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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ive gotten past the point of no return on my car when I cut my hood up lol... dont think i'll ever sell my car. if the engine ever dies I'm gonna try and drop a M273 in it.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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I have an unknown Pioneer double din in mine. I say unknown because I have not bothered to look up the model number. I really wanna buy a Dynavin because this Pioneer just looks so out of place.

BTW Phister, is that liner on your dash/console or is that actual CF?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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the double din is actual cf and i just wrapped the other parts. on pioneers they usually put the model number on the corner of the HU.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 04:13 AM
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What's the name of the part I should be looking for? Any idea if it'll work on my pre facelift C?

Originally Posted by Javvy
I had a double din nav installed in my C280 4matic with the adapter plate and all, but didnt like the look at all, it just looks plain out of place to be in a mercedes. Then I got my hand on an OEM command unit for like $400 and the install is a straight swap, it evene came with the OEM old map DVD. It was a super quick and easy install. The OEM unit looks like it belongs in there, with all the buttons light up and all......well functionality wise yes it just plays the MP3 and for other functions to be active I guess you need additional stuff, but the bottom line is it looks good OEM period......

If you are the Functinality kind of guy then go for aftermarket, but if you are like me and would like an OEM kind of look then go with the mercedes command unit; the bonus is also when you sell the car the value will appreciate with an OEM head unit where in an aftermarket case the value will depreciate......cause any mod take away from the value of the car in general....unless if you can find a buyer that will appreciate your mod..........

So an OEM command is a win win..........where as an aftermarket is not so....

Again this is just my opnion......do what suits you best and what you like...

If you are looking for a deal on an OEM command unit chcek out this web site www.car-parts.com, this is a complete US based auto parts recyclers web site and you can really find good a deal on a lot of parts....try the interchangable search and plug in the year from 2005-2007....I recently picked up a command for my newly aquired 2002 C230 6MT for $225 ...just insane....

hope this helps.

javvy
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 04:18 AM
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Cool

Any idea how much it would cost to order a M273 or even M156? A girl can dream right? :P

Originally Posted by phister
ive gotten past the point of no return on my car when I cut my hood up lol... dont think i'll ever sell my car. if the engine ever dies I'm gonna try and drop a M273 in it.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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As long as we're talking about HUs, I put a Pioneer X940BT in mine. I like it pretty well and I really don't use all the features (I don't have a smart phone and never tried watching a video one it - why would I want to do that?). I've put a BUNCH of my music on a micro SD card so I've never needed to play music from the DVD. The bluetooth works great. Some people like to rag on the nav, but I'm not unhappy with it.

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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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my main reason to install a double din was for a nav function. The unit you want doesn't have navigation built in and would probably cost a couple hundred more for the nav brain unit accessory. it may be cheaper to find a unit that has one built in.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Im really liking the way the HU's are looking in your guys' cars. Its a done deal for me i'll be getting my self a Double Din for new years or sooner!
Thank you all for the helpful information
Just another question,
How are you guys doing during the summer time when the sun is out, is the screen still visible or is it hard to see?
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by azn.ttr
What's the name of the part I should be looking for? Any idea if it'll work on my pre facelift C?
search under radio, command, cd player/radio, GPS screen, radio/cd...


here are some that I found...

2005
Radio
Mercedes C ClassNAVY CD PLAYER A071203$500Apple Auto Dismantling USA-CA(Wilmington) Request_Quote 1-562-436-6424 Request_Insurance_Quote
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2006
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Mercedes C ClassWITH NAV DRIVE AND CD DRIVE,TESTEDA00016177$385Modern Auto Parts, Inc - PRP Midwest USA-MO(St.-Louis) Request_Quote 1-888-919-8138 Request_Insurance_Quote

2005
Radio
Mercedes C ClassNAVY CD PLAYER A071203$500Apple Auto Dismantling USA-CA(Wilmington) Request_Quote 1-562-436-6424 Request_Insurance_Quote



then scroll down to find out closets to you and one that is a command unit....you can text them to send you some pictures of the actual unit....

javvy
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Here's a pic of my set up. All OEM...... sort of
Attached Thumbnails Im thinking of installing this-2011-11-04_17-34-23_894.jpg  
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HitUpOlas
Here's a pic of my set up. All OEM...... sort of
Is that a OEM headunit with a NAVI?
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Yes with my digital climate control I installed. My C230 came loaded only option missing is heated seats, which from I have read have issues.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HitUpOlas
Yes with my digital climate control I installed. My C230 came loaded only option missing is heated seats, which from I have read have issues.
I like the way it fits!
Would you prefer the OEM over BT navi indash?
Ah, mine has the digital climate controls and heated seats and so far no problems at all
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by azn.ttr
What's the name of the part I should be looking for? Any idea if it'll work on my pre facelift C?


Bought and installed this one:
http://www.seicane.com/car-dvd-playe...tooth-srd-8731
Stock look, everything works good, including steering wheel controls. Comes with harnesses.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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I eventually ordered the cf one I have now for like 120 or so.
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Originally Posted by ClevelandJay
Bought and installed this one:
http://www.seicane.com/car-dvd-playe...tooth-srd-8731
Stock look, everything works good, including steering wheel controls. Comes with harnesses.

Would you recommend this HU or an aftermarket one. I just bought a 2007 c230 and after researching all day have discovered it may be more work to install an aftermarket unit because of the telematics MB uses.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HitUpOlas
Here's a pic of my set up. All OEM...... sort of
Where did you find this unit?
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