These damn wheels...
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These damn wheels...
so i decided to put my new wheels on. bought tires and new lug bolts as well. was changing my rotors today and decided to do a test fit and the wheels are too big... im for sure gonna need spacers i just dont know what size. the wheels are 8.5x18 with a 35 offset all around. the pretty much touch the strut and im not sure if there will be clearance when turning the wheel after the tire is on. but ive seen on here people running the same size wheel and tires and even bigger with lowering the car anyone have any ideas on what size spacers? as you can see from the pictures its touching the strut. now with the 225 up front i dont think the tire would touch but im not sure.i also dont want it out too much because you can see that it is already pretty flush with the fenders. i didnt fit the back but it looks too be fine beacause it doesnt turn..
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#2
You might wanna get with Phister, he's kinda the wheel & tire Guru around here from what I gather. Send him a PM. But just off the top of my head I would make sure that the offset you think you got is what you actually got. It should be on the inside of the wheel somewhere. Also, under the OEM/Aftermarket mods Sticky there is a thread about wheels/tires and the right offsets and lugnuts and all the jazz ao I would check that thread and find rims with your same dimensions, then look at what spacers that calls for... from what I saw on the pics you posted I would say 5mm spacers but as to what kind of lugnuts and what length? Again I would check that thread. Good luck with it though, nice wheels!
Here's the link to the thread:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3cdd378e1965fd6f40108745a20f47 c3&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203%2F108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faqs.html&v=1&libId=47305127-6cd5-4d2a-8fef-17bfb11d31cf&out=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.mbworld.org%2 Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D253761&ref=http%3A% 2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203-3%2F&title=AFTERMARKET%20%26%20OEM%20MODIFICATIONS %20%2F%20DIY%20-%20FAQ's%20-%20MBWorld.org%20Forums&txt=LINK%3A%20OFFICIAL%20A FTERMARKET%20WHEELS%20THREAD&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_137 65291919228
Here's the link to the thread:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3cdd378e1965fd6f40108745a20f47 c3&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203%2F108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faqs.html&v=1&libId=47305127-6cd5-4d2a-8fef-17bfb11d31cf&out=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.mbworld.org%2 Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D253761&ref=http%3A% 2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203-3%2F&title=AFTERMARKET%20%26%20OEM%20MODIFICATIONS %20%2F%20DIY%20-%20FAQ's%20-%20MBWorld.org%20Forums&txt=LINK%3A%20OFFICIAL%20A FTERMARKET%20WHEELS%20THREAD&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_137 65291919228
Last edited by turbonos7; 08-14-2013 at 09:14 PM. Reason: Added link
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The standard wheels on a 2005 C are 7 x 16 with 31mm offset. If you do your homework (or perhaps the word is "should have done") and checked offsets when you change wheel width, for example such websites as 1010 tire
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
you would have found that there is 23mm less clearance on the inside. Did you buy these wheels all on your own? Did a dealer suggest these to you? Perhaps you can return them. Without spacers they are all wrong. Sorry to be a bit harsh. But I am sure you spent lots of money on these.
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
you would have found that there is 23mm less clearance on the inside. Did you buy these wheels all on your own? Did a dealer suggest these to you? Perhaps you can return them. Without spacers they are all wrong. Sorry to be a bit harsh. But I am sure you spent lots of money on these.
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You might wanna get with Phister, he's kinda the wheel & tire Guru around here from what I gather. Send him a PM. But just off the top of my head I would make sure that the offset you think you got is what you actually got. It should be on the inside of the wheel somewhere. Also, under the OEM/Aftermarket mods Sticky there is a thread about wheels/tires and the right offsets and lugnuts and all the jazz ao I would check that thread and find rims with your same dimensions, then look at what spacers that calls for... from what I saw on the pics you posted I would say 5mm spacers but as to what kind of lugnuts and what length? Again I would check that thread. Good luck with it though, nice wheels!
Here's the link to the thread:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3cdd378e1965fd6f40108745a20f47 c3&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203%2F108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faqs.html&v=1&libId=47305127-6cd5-4d2a-8fef-17bfb11d31cf&out=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.mbworld.org%2 Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D253761&ref=http%3A% 2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203-3%2F&title=AFTERMARKET%20%26%20OEM%20MODIFICATIONS %20%2F%20DIY%20-%20FAQ's%20-%20MBWorld.org%20Forums&txt=LINK%3A%20OFFICIAL%20A FTERMARKET%20WHEELS%20THREAD&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_137 65291919228
Here's the link to the thread:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3cdd378e1965fd6f40108745a20f47 c3&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203%2F108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faqs.html&v=1&libId=47305127-6cd5-4d2a-8fef-17bfb11d31cf&out=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.mbworld.org%2 Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D253761&ref=http%3A% 2F%2Fmbworld.org%2Fforums%2Fc-class-w203-3%2F&title=AFTERMARKET%20%26%20OEM%20MODIFICATIONS %20%2F%20DIY%20-%20FAQ's%20-%20MBWorld.org%20Forums&txt=LINK%3A%20OFFICIAL%20A FTERMARKET%20WHEELS%20THREAD&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_137 65291919228
#5
The standard wheels on a 2005 C are 7 x 16 with 31mm offset. If you do your homework (or perhaps the word is "should have done") and checked offsets when you change wheel width, for example such websites as 1010 tire
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
you would have found that there is 23mm less clearance on the inside. Did you buy these wheels all on your own? Did a dealer suggest these to you? Perhaps you can return them. Without spacers they are all wrong. Sorry to be a bit harsh. But I am sure you spent lots of money on these.
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
you would have found that there is 23mm less clearance on the inside. Did you buy these wheels all on your own? Did a dealer suggest these to you? Perhaps you can return them. Without spacers they are all wrong. Sorry to be a bit harsh. But I am sure you spent lots of money on these.
#6
You cant look at the wheel with car jacked up like that. You have to remember your suspension is at full travel with it jacked up. The wheels are going to sit higher up on the suspension then where it is sitting in your pics.. to really test fit you'll want to either jack up the wheel to height it'll sit at when the car it's on the ground or place some boards under the wheel and jack the car down to see where it did in on the suspension.
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You cant look at the wheel with car jacked up like that. You have to remember your suspension is at full travel with it jacked up. The wheels are going to sit higher up on the suspension then where it is sitting in your pics.. to really test fit you'll want to either jack up the wheel to height it'll sit at when the car it's on the ground or place some boards under the wheel and jack the car down to see where it did in on the suspension.
#12
I think what Phister was trying to say was addressing the OP's concern as to the wheel sticking out too much and not looking stock. I think what Phister was saying is that at ACTUAL ride height the lip of the wheel will move up and in parallel to the strut since the strut leans into the car. Even if with 5mm spacers the wheel/tire will still be well inside the fender IMHO.
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I think what Phister was trying to say was addressing the OP's concern as to the wheel sticking out too much and not looking stock. I think what Phister was saying is that at ACTUAL ride height the lip of the wheel will move up and in parallel to the strut since the strut leans into the car. Even if with 5mm spacers the wheel/tire will still be well inside the fender IMHO.
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So I'm getting the tires mounted on the wheels tonight and probably tomorrow ill throw them on to see how they fit. I browsed the aftermarket wheel thread a but and from what I gathered up front a lower offset is better like the 30 range. Even though people on there said there wheels fit fine with the same specs as mine I guess I'll need spacers. I'll be able to confirm that once I get the wheels on and the suspension at stock height but who knows. So I guess if I need some maybe 5 up front? That would bring it to 30 correct?
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Yes, offset is measured in mm so... Adding 5mm with the spacer brings it to 30 offset which means that the mounting "face" of the wheel is +30mm from the absolute centerline of the wheel (+ means toward the outside of the car). Good luck tomorrow and please take some pics for us to enjoy.
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I just bought the same wheels for my 06' c230 sport. Front 18x8.5 et30 and rear 18x9.5 et35. Just put wheel on car and the front was about 1/4" from strut, pretty close since I'm putting 235/40 tires up there and 255/35 in rear. I do have 10 mm spacers but I hope I don't have to use them. My rear stock bolts are too long for the rear wheels, they tightened down but left probably a 1/8" gap so I will need to shorten them up. Let me know how yours works out, I don't know much about offsets so if yours is 35mm and rub the strut what will my 30 mm do?
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I just bought the same wheels for my 06' c230 sport. Front 18x8.5 et30 and rear 18x9.5 et35. Just put wheel on car and the front was about 1/4" from strut, pretty close since I'm putting 235/40 tires up there and 255/35 in rear. I do have 10 mm spacers but I hope I don't have to use them. My rear stock bolts are too long for the rear wheels, they tightened down but left probably a 1/8" gap so I will need to shorten them up. Let me know how yours works out, I don't know much about offsets so if yours is 35mm and rub the strut what will my 30 mm do?
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Yes, offset is measured in mm so... Adding 5mm with the spacer brings it to 30 offset which means that the mounting "face" of the wheel is +30mm from the absolute centerline of the wheel (+ means toward the outside of the car). Good luck tomorrow and please take some pics for us to enjoy.
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I just bought the same wheels for my 06' c230 sport. Front 18x8.5 et30 and rear 18x9.5 et35. Just put wheel on car and the front was about 1/4" from strut, pretty close since I'm putting 235/40 tires up there and 255/35 in rear. I do have 10 mm spacers but I hope I don't have to use them. My rear stock bolts are too long for the rear wheels, they tightened down but left probably a 1/8" gap so I will need to shorten them up. Let me know how yours works out, I don't know much about offsets so if yours is 35mm and rub the strut what will my 30 mm do?