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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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I have a C240 with sport package. I am thinking to purchase the AMG suspension from autoclass. Does the sport package suspension or the AMG suspension has lower ride height?( how many inches?)
Is it waste of money to get a AMG suspension if I already have sport package?
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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The AMG suspension does lower your height, but not as much as an aftermarket suspension. For roughly the same amount, you could get a combination of H&R springs and Koni Adj shocks. In my opinion that would be a much better choice.
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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I thought the best choice (cost/quality) is kleeman... correct me if I am wrong...
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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I heard that the sport package suspension is 15mm lower than standard.
how about AMG and Kleeman?
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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This is what I have read....
AMG...lowers car 1.4" (sorry dont have my metric conversion calculator handy)
H&R spring replacement...lowers about 1.5"
H&R Cup kit(includes springs and shocks)...lowers 2"
Brabus spring replacement(keep stock shocks)...lowers 30mm
Hope this somewhat helps out....
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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If the AMG suspension kit from autoclass is the same AMG suspension found in the C32, then believe me, it's not low enough. You should go with either the Kleeman or a combination of the Carlsson/H&R springs with upgrades dampers (Bilstein).
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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Which shocks are good combination with H&R springs?

So do u prefer H&R cupkit or H&R springs with shocks combination?

Also how about Kleenman, anyone used it before?(it seems expensive)

Thanks a lot!!
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 04:30 AM
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u know...on the w202 platform, a c280 with 17" rims is actually lower than c36 if u put them side by side.
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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A major plus for the AMG is that they dont mess with the warranty at all because they are AMG. Thats the only reason I would get them over other brands.

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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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I agree with Boo2,
If you are into lowering, then the C32's AMG suspension is probably not low enough for you. It sits a little tall and has some soft travel before it firms up. It does offer a very nice ride, and handles well too.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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I inquired with the dealer about having the C32 suspension installed on my C240. They said that it can be installed, but the warranty may not be honoured, even though you are installing a factory product. Their argument was that that part is not standard on that particular model. The dealer was very willing to install the shocks/springs and sway bars, but they did mention that about the warranty. So, I dont know what is really correct about the warranty issue. If I do go with a new suspension...I think I am leaning towards the H&R cup kit (new shocks/springs)
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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Someone else suggests " Think twice about the Cup Kit" .
http://www.mercedesbenzamg.com/topic...&TOPIC_ID=432.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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Re: rrf

Originally posted by rrf
Someone else suggests " Think twice about the Cup Kit" .
http://www.mercedesbenzamg.com/topic...&TOPIC_ID=432.
Not really. This only applies to the C32 because of the weight differential. These kits are DESIGNED and OPTIMIZED for the W203 V6 C class (C240/C320). The C32 is roughly 80 lbs. heavier than what the H&R upgraded suspension was designed for. So if you have a C240/C230, you are in luck because all current brand w203 suspension kits were designed for you guys.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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Re: rrf

Originally posted by rrf
Someone else suggests " Think twice about the Cup Kit" .
http://www.mercedesbenzamg.com/topic...&TOPIC_ID=432.
That "someone else" is me.

But I guess you guys are discussing to put the cup kit on a C240 which I think it might not be a bad idea (afterall, the cup kit is specially designed for the W203). Its just I dont favor putting the cup kit on a C32. Now that I'm putting back the stock AMG shocks on with the springs from the cup kit, so far I'm quite happy with this combination. I heard that Renntech has really good springs and Kleemann has a very good speed sensitive suspension system. But I have yet to gather enough testimonialS from ppl who have actually put them on. I dont want to make an expensive mistake.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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Mach430, could you please give me some information about the combination of H&R SPRINGS with Koni Adj shocks?

How much will it lower my ride?

Also how are the handling and performance compare to the H&R cupkit?

Thanks
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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Ive got the Cup Kit on my C320 with 18 inch wheels. The performance is really great...
nothing to complain...
However the car sits a bit too high in the front. I wished it was about .5 of an inch lower.

you cant go wrong with the CUPKIT>>>
but im probable biased as i have that on my car...

newayss
good luck

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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calvin, could you show me some picture of your ride?

Thanks
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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Also I am afraid the ride height will be too low with the cupkit?
What do u think?
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. White
Mach430, could you please give me some information about the combination of H&R SPRINGS with Koni Adj shocks?

How much will it lower my ride?

Also how are the handling and performance compare to the H&R cupkit?

Thanks
The cup kit will likely out perform a combination of H&R springs with Koni Adjustable shocks, however there are some drawbacks to it. It is much lower, and too many, far to aggressive for the streets. We find that the H&R/Koni combination is much better suited for street driving. You can expect an approximate 1.4" Front and 1.3" Rear drop from either the H&R or Kleemann springs.

Maverick:
Yes, the Kleemann suspension is by far, the best suspension available for the Mercedes. As many know, I highly recommend it, and stand behind it 100%. It is both more comfortable than stock, and the best performing suspension on the market. No other suspension manufacturer for the Mercedes can say that.

Harris:
As I've mentioned the Kleemann Shocks are truly great. As they are growing in popularity, I think that you will find more and more customers endorsing it.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Well...I like the combination of what I have now: AMG shocks + H&R springs from the cup kit. I know its kinda funny that I bought the cup kit but not using the shocks that come with it. But I really feel the AMG shocks are much better than the H&R ones.
The height on my car looks perfect now with my 19" wheels. I will definitely consider putting the Kleemann on, but I guess the Kleemann will raise back the car a bit. Thats the only set back that is bugging me now.

Mach430, what do you think?
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:22 PM
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so what is the Kleemann speed sensitive thing? Since they are about twice as expensive as other kits I wanna know what is the ride height and how they do the magic to compromise comfort and performance
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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here is a picture of my car...
as you can see, the front of the car sits a little too high....
I do not think that it is too low but thats a personal preferance so i will leave it that to you.
FYI, nothing is rubbing and everything seems to work perfectly.
I have the sport package so im using #2 pads in the rear...
I might have to use thicker pads in the rear to bring it up a little just like Harris to match the height of the front. There is nothing i can do to the front except cutting the springs which i do not want to do....

hope these info will help you

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Harris:
You could keep your current ride height by only changing to the Kleemann shocks. I currently have H&R springs in combination with the Kleemann Shocks.

Gab:
The Kleemann Speed Sensitive Shocks are like no other on the market. Unlike Bilsteins/Koni's/any custom valved version of those two, the Kleemann shocks have multiple variable aperatures. The easiest way to describe it would be to imagine many valves acting differently depending on the stress placed upon the shock. Under normal driving conditions, the shocks are able to provide an extremely comfortable ride. At the first instant of an increase in pressure, whether by increased speed, turning, or any possible combination, the shocks adjust according to the exact levels required of them. We have tracked the Kleemann suspension on an E class, and were able to achieve an additional 10mph on a turn tightly compared to 110 (E55 with H&R/Koni) wide. Even more, that was in a Kleemann E32K. The car was completely stable at 120mph, and could have been taken faster if the car had more power.

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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 01:11 AM
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The car looks great. Thanks for the picture.
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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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Hi Mech430 could you email the pricing for Kleeman Suspension to kubil@hotmail.com thx
Can i use it in my c200 kompressor sedan?
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