Not good....predicted reliability USA Today
#26
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2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Originally posted by Kompressor4u2nv
I don't understand how you can figure out reliability WITHOUT extrapolating (your word, i'd rather say looking at and applying the data of old with more statistical analysis than simple extrapolation allows) data from older models. That is what reliability is, last time I checked, how well older models are still performing.
I don't understand how you can figure out reliability WITHOUT extrapolating (your word, i'd rather say looking at and applying the data of old with more statistical analysis than simple extrapolation allows) data from older models. That is what reliability is, last time I checked, how well older models are still performing.
CR separates cars into generations, like any reasonable person would. What you'd be trying to do is to guess a newborn's weight at 18 years old from the size of their neighbor's pants.
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From: San Francisco, CA
16 GLE400, 16 eGolf, 15 M3, 13 328i, 06 S430, 98 E320
Well, first of all, if you look at the CR report, they put the c-class as a mid-sized car..wth? Secondly, i read the last yr's report and slk is by far one of the more reliables mbz and now it is the least? What's going on here?
I must admit that japanese cars are more reliable and dependable period. There's no debate on that and this is already an established fact for years...therefore, i don't see these stupid reports playing in one's car buying decision.
I must admit that japanese cars are more reliable and dependable period. There's no debate on that and this is already an established fact for years...therefore, i don't see these stupid reports playing in one's car buying decision.
#28
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
2002 C240 Classic - Orion Blue Beast!!
Originally posted by trench
Yeah, I agree. Old Mercedes were bulletproof, however, the huge amount of electronic junk in the new ones has me a little worried regarding cost of upkeep down the road (as it's the electronics that seem to be the most problematic aspect of the newer MBs) .
I'm curious what these forums are going to look like in a year or so when people have to start paying to fix these gremlins.
Yeah, I agree. Old Mercedes were bulletproof, however, the huge amount of electronic junk in the new ones has me a little worried regarding cost of upkeep down the road (as it's the electronics that seem to be the most problematic aspect of the newer MBs) .
I'm curious what these forums are going to look like in a year or so when people have to start paying to fix these gremlins.
And they really need to do a better job of finding parts suppliers. I read a story about the S-Class AC compressor needing to be repaired on virtually every model after X years of ownership just because the part was a POS. And the reapir cost something like 2 grand! That is inexcusable for a car in that price range.
MB needs to get their act together. Whether these 'problems' are being blown out of proprotion or not makes no difference. Bottom line is, perception is a greater force than reality. And the perception is, MB is sucking in reliability. If they are not careful, that perception may one day come back to haunt them.
Just my $0.02.
#29
Originally posted by tommy
If the models share NOTHING in common, how can you make any kind of guess as to what will happen with the new?
CR separates cars into generations, like any reasonable person would. What you'd be trying to do is to guess a newborn's weight at 18 years old from the size of their neighbor's pants.
If the models share NOTHING in common, how can you make any kind of guess as to what will happen with the new?
CR separates cars into generations, like any reasonable person would. What you'd be trying to do is to guess a newborn's weight at 18 years old from the size of their neighbor's pants.
and yes, there are average weights that a newborn could expect to be, and heights and so forth.
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Originally posted by Kompressor4u2nv
1987 300sd with 225k+ miles
1989 560sl with 300k+ miles
1987 300sd with 225k+ miles
1989 560sl with 300k+ miles
Just being assembled in the same location as those cars by the same company means less than nothing.
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