my C230K has been in the shop for over 1 week
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OK, for you DFW guys: Who's the best dealer for service, regardless of which loaner is issued? I had two people directing me two directions when I ordered my car, but I went w/Ewing in Plano. Are their service and technicians equal to or superior than Park Place? I'm not as concerned about a loaner as the follow-on service and quality that the dealer provides. What say ye?
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ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT LOANER (E320 UR CASE)......
DON'T GET HOOKED ON IT.....
IT'LL BE HARD TO GET BACK TO UR C230K.....THAT WAS MY CASE
WHEN MY CAR WAS IN FOR THE COMMON "PULLING TO RIGHT" CASE.....WHICH I DON'T THINK MB STAFF FIXED CORRECTLY. AND HOUSE OF IMPORTS GAVE ME 100 MILES/DAY ON E320....
ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT LOANER (E320 UR CASE)......
DON'T GET HOOKED ON IT.....
IT'LL BE HARD TO GET BACK TO UR C230K.....THAT WAS MY CASE
WHEN MY CAR WAS IN FOR THE COMMON "PULLING TO RIGHT" CASE.....WHICH I DON'T THINK MB STAFF FIXED CORRECTLY. AND HOUSE OF IMPORTS GAVE ME 100 MILES/DAY ON E320....
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Originally posted by C230Komp
OK, for you DFW guys: Who's the best dealer for service, regardless of which loaner is issued? I had two people directing me two directions when I ordered my car, but I went w/Ewing in Plano. Are their service and technicians equal to or superior than Park Place? I'm not as concerned about a loaner as the follow-on service and quality that the dealer provides. What say ye?
OK, for you DFW guys: Who's the best dealer for service, regardless of which loaner is issued? I had two people directing me two directions when I ordered my car, but I went w/Ewing in Plano. Are their service and technicians equal to or superior than Park Place? I'm not as concerned about a loaner as the follow-on service and quality that the dealer provides. What say ye?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by raymond
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The Park Place guys I use seem to be unable to fix things first time around, but they're nice about it!
Ha! LOL Well if they're nice about it, what else could you ask?
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The Park Place guys I use seem to be unable to fix things first time around, but they're nice about it!
Ha! LOL Well if they're nice about it, what else could you ask?
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Originally posted by C230Komp
OK, for you DFW guys: Who's the best dealer for service, regardless of which loaner is issued? I had two people directing me two directions when I ordered my car, but I went w/Ewing in Plano. Are their service and technicians equal to or superior than Park Place? I'm not as concerned about a loaner as the follow-on service and quality that the dealer provides. What say ye?
OK, for you DFW guys: Who's the best dealer for service, regardless of which loaner is issued? I had two people directing me two directions when I ordered my car, but I went w/Ewing in Plano. Are their service and technicians equal to or superior than Park Place? I'm not as concerned about a loaner as the follow-on service and quality that the dealer provides. What say ye?
Good question, though, Kompster. I'd like to hear thoughts from others, too.
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Originally posted by raymond
Design Flaws:
* Drumming when sunroof is opened > 75% (BTW, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?)
* You can't select recirculate on the A/C and expect it to stay there.
* Rain sensor will only select up to the first speed of the wipers.
Design Flaws:
* Drumming when sunroof is opened > 75% (BTW, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?)
* You can't select recirculate on the A/C and expect it to stay there.
* Rain sensor will only select up to the first speed of the wipers.
"Drumming" sunroof - I think all cars w/ sunroofs do this. Just crack open a rear window a bit and it'll solve 99% of the problem. It's caused by a resonance set up in the cabin -- pretty sure it's a law of physics... you can put on an ugly after-market plastic deflector that might help more...
Most car manuals explain you shouldn't leave the HVAC in recirc too long -- no fresh air intake. M-B solves this by setting a time limit "for you". I think it's 30 minutes or so, but also depends on the temp I think (haven't read the manual in a while) Why do you need recirc on so long?
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". The rain sensor is simply an extension of a normal intermittent system only the wipe is triggered by detecting rain drops instead of simple timing. They all delay the low speed wipe mode.
Just my $.02 :p
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"Drumming" sunroof - I think all cars w/ sunroofs do this. Just crack open a rear window a bit and it'll solve 99% of the problem. It's caused by a resonance set up in the cabin -- pretty sure it's a law of physics... you can put on an ugly after-market plastic deflector that might help more...
Most car manuals explain you shouldn't leave the HVAC in recirc too long -- no fresh air intake. M-B solves this by setting a time limit "for you". I think it's 30 minutes or so, but also depends on the temp I think (haven't read the manual in a while) Why do you need recirc on so long?
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". The rain sensor is simply an extension of a normal intermittent system only the wipe is triggered by detecting rain drops instead of simple timing. They all delay the low speed wipe mode.
Just my $.02 :p
"Drumming" sunroof - I think all cars w/ sunroofs do this. Just crack open a rear window a bit and it'll solve 99% of the problem. It's caused by a resonance set up in the cabin -- pretty sure it's a law of physics... you can put on an ugly after-market plastic deflector that might help more...
Most car manuals explain you shouldn't leave the HVAC in recirc too long -- no fresh air intake. M-B solves this by setting a time limit "for you". I think it's 30 minutes or so, but also depends on the temp I think (haven't read the manual in a while) Why do you need recirc on so long?
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". The rain sensor is simply an extension of a normal intermittent system only the wipe is triggered by detecting rain drops instead of simple timing. They all delay the low speed wipe mode.
Just my $.02 :p
The recirc is just a personal preference, the main reason is the smell of diesel fumes and roadkill skunk is minimised if in recirc. If MB is intent on thinking for you, why not switch to fresh for, say, 1 minute out of 10 if you've selected recirc?
I agree on the rain sensor, now that I actually think about it as an extension of the intermittent function. THanks
THanks for the input.
Although my brain gets irritated with the little issues with this car, my heart loves it. Today I had it out in torrential rain, and I have never felt as stuck to the road as in this car.
Cheers
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Originally posted by raymond
Today I had it out in torrential rain, and I have never felt as stuck to the road as in this car.
Today I had it out in torrential rain, and I have never felt as stuck to the road as in this car.
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I have read and laughed at all of your responses.
MB-BOB anytime you need a Drill Sergeant let me know.
Rev butt-munch is a 12 year old remark I'm glad someone figured out the context.
Greg your signature becomes you. Kudos for making the buttmunch moniker noble!
Finally my favorite person to **** off,
You must be schizophrenic. There is a definite duality to your personality. Aren't you the guy who jumped up and down because I called greg a buttmunch. Chill out dude, don't you have a sense of humor.
MB-BOB anytime you need a Drill Sergeant let me know.
Rev butt-munch is a 12 year old remark I'm glad someone figured out the context.
Greg your signature becomes you. Kudos for making the buttmunch moniker noble!
Finally my favorite person to **** off,
<i>Originally posted by benzomonterey</i>
Look guys it's another Wyatt Earp. Why can't you people have a sense of humor. Yes I am special, I think. I am fortunate enough to have Two homes. Do I lord it over anyone? no! Do I get stressed over dumb conversations that are funny? No again.
Look guys it's another Wyatt Earp. Why can't you people have a sense of humor. Yes I am special, I think. I am fortunate enough to have Two homes. Do I lord it over anyone? no! Do I get stressed over dumb conversations that are funny? No again.
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Finally my favorite person to **** off,
You must be schizophrenic. There is a definite duality to your personality. Aren't you the guy who jumped up and down because I called greg a buttmunch. Chill out dude, don't you have a sense of humor.
Finally my favorite person to **** off,
You must be schizophrenic. There is a definite duality to your personality. Aren't you the guy who jumped up and down because I called greg a buttmunch. Chill out dude, don't you have a sense of humor.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". The rain sensor is simply an extension of a normal intermittent system only the wipe is triggered by detecting rain drops instead of simple timing. They all delay the low speed wipe mode.
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". The rain sensor is simply an extension of a normal intermittent system only the wipe is triggered by detecting rain drops instead of simple timing. They all delay the low speed wipe mode.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Any chance the C's have a different set up the the CLK's? Love the rain sensor setup on my '01 CLK55. Any hint of wet, I just set it & forget it. If the volume of water picks up, the wiper tempo does as well - ranges from one-swipe-back-in-the-well to full tilt non-stop boogie. All without me touching a thing.
Jim
MarkL, I'm curious as well. The Rain sensor on my Sedan works as Jim suggests, speeding up or down, both in wiping frequency and blade speed, as necessary.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Rain sensor -- I've never seen a car w/ any type of intermittent or rain sensor system that will use any speed other than "low". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Any chance the C's have a different set up the the CLK's? Love the rain sensor setup on my '01 CLK55. Any hint of wet, I just set it & forget it. If the volume of water picks up, the wiper tempo does as well - ranges from one-swipe-back-in-the-well to full tilt non-stop boogie. All without me touching a thing.
Jim
MarkL, I'm curious as well. The Rain sensor on my Sedan works as Jim suggests, speeding up or down, both in wiping frequency and blade speed, as necessary.
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MB-BOB, Mine works as MarkL stated. That is, it will work only as fast as the first settings. While driving home in the downpoor yesterday, I had to change the setting to fast because the rain sensor would not speed past the regular speed setting.
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How did this post go from a guy complaining about his car being in the shop too long to the ethics of driving a rental carl/loaner differently than your own to windshield wiper settings. This is just too bizzare.
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Originally posted by revstriker
MB-BOB, Mine works as MarkL stated. That is, it will work only as fast as the first settings. While driving home in the downpoor yesterday, I had to change the setting to fast because the rain sensor would not speed past the regular speed setting.
MB-BOB, Mine works as MarkL stated. That is, it will work only as fast as the first settings. While driving home in the downpoor yesterday, I had to change the setting to fast because the rain sensor would not speed past the regular speed setting.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
Pushing the dead horse aside for a moment, I'll have to pay more attention to this when I get my car back from the dealer (and when it rains). The cars are all the same on this, or some of us have a warranty issue to explore.
Pushing the dead horse aside for a moment, I'll have to pay more attention to this when I get my car back from the dealer (and when it rains). The cars are all the same on this, or some of us have a warranty issue to explore.
Edit: Simple test: Next time it's raining at a decent rate, set your wipers on delay-mode (rain sensor). When they're moving at a continuous rate, first move the switch to the regular low speed position, and then to the high-speed position and note the difference. :p
Another edit: Did you know that many rain-sense systems (i.e. GM) let you adjust the sensitivity of the rain sensor. They use the same wiper control as the variable intermittent system, but instead of the multiple positions controlling the timing cycle, it adjusts the amount of rain drops you'll let the sensor "see" before it triggers a wipe.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Another edit: Did you know that many rain-sense systems (i.e. GM) let you adjust the sensitivity of the rain sensor. They use the same wiper control as the variable intermittent system, but instead of the multiple positions controlling the timing cycle, it adjusts the amount of rain drops you'll let the sensor "see" before it triggers a wipe.
Another edit: Did you know that many rain-sense systems (i.e. GM) let you adjust the sensitivity of the rain sensor. They use the same wiper control as the variable intermittent system, but instead of the multiple positions controlling the timing cycle, it adjusts the amount of rain drops you'll let the sensor "see" before it triggers a wipe.
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While driving in a light drizzle the other night, I discovered an interesting glitch with the rain sensor. At intersections with multiple (more than two) signals, red lights would cause the rain sensor to switch from intermittant to constant wiping. When the signals turned green, the sensor switched back to intermittant. I suppose this is because the sensor is infrared, and the red traffic signal is much closer in frequency than the green signal. This does not happen in daylight.
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Good work Benzo, getting the post back on track. That is a pitfall of playing to hard with your rental. Heck, that's why I got AAA for. They'll pull it out of the ditch for ya (they pulled my daughters car out of a ditch). Hose it off, return it and get another one. There's an endless supply of loaners and rental cars waiting for me!
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Just to let you know my C230K is back in the shop. I was actually offered a choice of loaners, and the guy behind the desk almost passed out when I chose a C320 Wagon. His comment was "I could give this guy loaners all day long!".
What is it with the US and station wagons? Is there some sense of security in driving SUVs which are typically truck suspensions and drivetrains with softened springsand a heavy body?
BTW, caught my first look at an SL500 in the flesh - very sweet. Placed an order for 3 - one for my wife, one for me and one for our business partner. MB said they could guarantee consecutive VINs if I ordered together. Just worried how I'll get by without my Ford Ranger and our C-Coupe. They wouldn't take my check, though.
Just to let you know my C230K is back in the shop. I was actually offered a choice of loaners, and the guy behind the desk almost passed out when I chose a C320 Wagon. His comment was "I could give this guy loaners all day long!".
What is it with the US and station wagons? Is there some sense of security in driving SUVs which are typically truck suspensions and drivetrains with softened springsand a heavy body?
BTW, caught my first look at an SL500 in the flesh - very sweet. Placed an order for 3 - one for my wife, one for me and one for our business partner. MB said they could guarantee consecutive VINs if I ordered together. Just worried how I'll get by without my Ford Ranger and our C-Coupe.
They wouldn't take my check, though.
