C230 Trunk bug?
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C230 Trunk bug?
Has anyone noticed this bug....on C230
Open trunk, close it (with medium effort).
Start car, run it, after a few feet it reports TRUNK OPEN.
Go out of car...open trunk .. close trunk (lotsa effort)
No more error....
Has happened to me a lot of times already..I'm guessing it's something with sensor of the trunk.
Anyone out there with same issue?
Open trunk, close it (with medium effort).
Start car, run it, after a few feet it reports TRUNK OPEN.
Go out of car...open trunk .. close trunk (lotsa effort)
No more error....
Has happened to me a lot of times already..I'm guessing it's something with sensor of the trunk.
Anyone out there with same issue?
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i've had the exact same problem... but have just figured the trunk is abnormally difficult to close. i would love an automatic latch based on this. my previous benzes have not required nearly any effort to close the boot. this is probably the only complaint i have about the car so far.
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the service rep told me it's because the car is sealed air tight. if you have window or door open, it close a lot easier. I don't remember to try this and confirm since mine is still in the shop. Still then MB should design a latch that is easier to close.
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The same fully applies to doors.
All that needs to be done - pull it down slowly all the way and then when it's nearly closed, push it hard. Works fine. Or, as previously mentioned, open a door/window/sunroof.
It's an inside air pressure that prevents it from engaging if done too quickly.
All that needs to be done - pull it down slowly all the way and then when it's nearly closed, push it hard. Works fine. Or, as previously mentioned, open a door/window/sunroof.
It's an inside air pressure that prevents it from engaging if done too quickly.
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The first week I was getting this error message constantly. I trained myself to use more force when closing to avoid the error. Maybe it can be adjusted to require a little less force and still close tight. I will ask for this on Service A and report back.
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I am amazed at how many little annoyances we have experienced with our M-Bs. Sure, they are little, so we don't pay much attention, like this trunk bug, squeaky clutch pedal, etc, etc. But at some point, you add up all the little ones and it makes for one big headache.
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That's true, but...
Real mechanical/performance annoyances aside, I think the car is damned good for the money. My expectations for this car, and therefore the number of things I am willing to gripe about, are much higher for this car than some of my past rides because it is an M-B.
I am super-picky about little problems with my car, too. But my point is just to say that I don't regret my purchase (yet
!) and hope not to. I think the car is a steal.
I am super-picky about little problems with my car, too. But my point is just to say that I don't regret my purchase (yet
!) and hope not to. I think the car is a steal.
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Yeah, same here. I just have to close it the old-fashioned way, like I'm used to doing on my old Cherokee. Wish it had a trunk-closing mechanism; even more, I wish I could pop the lid from the inside, or via the smartkey. I'll have to try the "crack-the-window" option. Still beats the spring-loaded arching struts of a Lexus IS300 sedan, or the Nissan Altima, which intrude into your cargo space, and you have to press down on the lid to close it. But they're not hatchbacks. They just cost as much or more than the Sportcoupe. I'm just too happy with the car to really let it bug me. There are always tradeoffs.
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Hmm...I never noticed any of this. Doors close and seal like drums, and my hatch is the same. For the money, I'm damned glad I bought a Benz instead of Volvo, Audi or BMW. While those are all decent cars, I'd not be happy with any of them because I'd feel I "settled for something less".
OK, maybe we all spent more than we would have had we not bought a Benz. For that expense, maybe we should have a high expectation of perfection. But as long as the problems are minor, there's no need to blow them out of proportion and make them the headache some have described. It's easy enough to go to the dealer, talk with the service consultant in a reasonable manor, and give them the opportunity to resolve the issues while driving a pretty sweet loaner.
If the resolve doesn't come there, call MBUSA and follow up with the Regional Marketing Manager.
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OK, maybe we all spent more than we would have had we not bought a Benz. For that expense, maybe we should have a high expectation of perfection. But as long as the problems are minor, there's no need to blow them out of proportion and make them the headache some have described. It's easy enough to go to the dealer, talk with the service consultant in a reasonable manor, and give them the opportunity to resolve the issues while driving a pretty sweet loaner.
If the resolve doesn't come there, call MBUSA and follow up with the Regional Marketing Manager.
(passing around platter of cheese, crackers and crudite to go with the whines)
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Originally posted by columbus
I wish I could pop the lid from the inside, or via the smartkey.
I wish I could pop the lid from the inside, or via the smartkey.
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Originally posted by avlis
Rev,
There is no button on the key for the trunk on the coupe. I was surprised by this myself. I actually have to get my little hands dirty on the handle to pop the hatch.
Rev,
There is no button on the key for the trunk on the coupe. I was surprised by this myself. I actually have to get my little hands dirty on the handle to pop the hatch.
Maybe a cost saving measure??
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Originally posted by revstriker
Thanks avlis. Seems like they could have at least have a way of "poping" it, even if it did not open it. On my wife's car, if you press the trunk button, it pops so all you have to do is lift it open.
Maybe a cost saving measure??
Thanks avlis. Seems like they could have at least have a way of "poping" it, even if it did not open it. On my wife's car, if you press the trunk button, it pops so all you have to do is lift it open.
Maybe a cost saving measure??
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Re: C230 Trunk bug?
Originally posted by curioused
Has anyone noticed this bug....on C230
Open trunk, close it (with medium effort).
Start car, run it, after a few feet it reports TRUNK OPEN.
Go out of car...open trunk .. close trunk (lotsa effort)
No more error....
Has anyone noticed this bug....on C230
Open trunk, close it (with medium effort).
Start car, run it, after a few feet it reports TRUNK OPEN.
Go out of car...open trunk .. close trunk (lotsa effort)
No more error....
It was reported my mbtech208 a while ago that when the car is turned off the HVAC recirc flap opens halfway to allow air to enter/escape the cabin to allow easier opening/closing of the doors. If the car is running and the HVAC is on Recic. it would then, thoereticly, take more effort to close the doors/hatch (unless a window was open). This could explain why it was harder to close the hatch the 2nd time (while the car was running).
Also, behind one of those fuzzy panels that line the hatch is a louvered vent (about 5x6 inches and I have a pic if interested) with a rubber flap covering it (it exits behind the bumper). The flap acts as a one-way check valve- allowing air to go out but not in. I belive the purpose on this vent is similar to what I described above with the recirc. flap. The catch is: in order for the air to escape through this wonderfull vent, it first has to seep through the cracks and seams between those fuzzy trim panels. I think it would an interesting experiment to open the the covers that hide the subwoofer/tail light and the first aid kit and see if it's easier to close the hatch.
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Originally posted by vadim
The same fully applies to doors.
All that needs to be done - pull it down slowly all the way and then when it's nearly closed, push it hard. Works fine. Or, as previously mentioned, open a door/window/sunroof.
It's an inside air pressure that prevents it from engaging if done too quickly.
The same fully applies to doors.
All that needs to be done - pull it down slowly all the way and then when it's nearly closed, push it hard. Works fine. Or, as previously mentioned, open a door/window/sunroof.
It's an inside air pressure that prevents it from engaging if done too quickly.
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Originally posted by Bper
This seems to be such a minor issue. As long as the hatchback is unlocked, it takes no more real time to pull the handle and raise the lid.
This seems to be such a minor issue. As long as the hatchback is unlocked, it takes no more real time to pull the handle and raise the lid.
But hey, I'm not complaining about the car. Just like Earth is such a cool planet to live on, but there are some major and minor nuisances, some of which can kill you. Gravity, f.ex. can be a b!tch, but, hey - I wouldn't want to do without it.
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Originally posted by mdp c230k
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
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Originally posted by Bper
This seems to be such a minor issue. As long as the hatchback is unlocked, it takes no more real time to pull the handle and raise the lid.
This seems to be such a minor issue. As long as the hatchback is unlocked, it takes no more real time to pull the handle and raise the lid.
mdp c230k, I would have a MB tech take a look at that, as it sounds like it does not work properly. I would think that you would not have to "slam" it in order for it to shut properly.
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I had the same problem initially, but the message is correct. The trunk is not fully closed. I could tell, because the top of it was 1/2 inch higher than the side of the car. After a couple tries I learned the 'right' amount of minimum force required to insure it locks properly. Typical new car stuff. If it really bothered me, I'd get a caddy with auto-trunk-close...
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Originally posted by dmichael
I am amazed at how many little annoyances we have experienced with our M-Bs. Sure, they are little, so we don't pay much attention, like this trunk bug, squeaky clutch pedal, etc, etc. But at some point, you add up all the little ones and it makes for one big headache.
I am amazed at how many little annoyances we have experienced with our M-Bs. Sure, they are little, so we don't pay much attention, like this trunk bug, squeaky clutch pedal, etc, etc. But at some point, you add up all the little ones and it makes for one big headache.
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Originally posted by mdp c230k
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
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Originally posted by revstriker
Agreed, it is a minor issue. But it's just a "nice" feature that could have been added. Power seats are another example. It doesn't take much to just reach down and pull a lever and scoot forward or back, but it's nice (dare I say luxurious?) to have power seats.
Agreed, it is a minor issue. But it's just a "nice" feature that could have been added. Power seats are another example. It doesn't take much to just reach down and pull a lever and scoot forward or back, but it's nice (dare I say luxurious?) to have power seats.
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Originally posted by mdp c230k
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
It is NOT the air pressure causing this problem. Every day to get into work the guards check all the cars trunks, my window is down to talk to them and I still get the 'trunk open' error every time. I pull to my parking spot get out and slam the trunk medium hard to close it. Visually the trunk looks like it is closed as the levels match between the trunk lid and the body but it isn't.
