TimmyC230boy

Last night i raced a Acura RSX-S and beat it. We raced from 0-130 but i easily had him by about 4 cars at 100. He pulled on me in first which i figured would happen. I pulled back even in second, and kept pulling in 3rd and 4th. When I hit the 130 speed limiter and the car stopped pulling I was like, "OH CRAP WHAT BROKE" but then i looked down and saw i was doing 130. All in all i really didnt think i could beat him, but anything can happen on the road.

Mike T.

I don't approve of street racing (not that you would care) but I do have a question: did the Honda/Acura run into a limiter at 130 MPH too? Or did he blow by you at 140+?

The top end of the c 230 K in Europe is 149 MPH. There must be a way to disable the speed limiter (using the Speedtronic software that the EU versions have) in North American cars, but if there's a way, make sure you have better than H-rated tires

BTW, the 1975 Porsche 911 RSR also topped out at 149 MPH. That's some good company!

gab

good job.
you beat the RSX-S with the C230K auto

those RSX-S pull fast in the 1st-4th gear after that it's all C Coupe

TimmyC230boy

To tell you the truth I don't think he ever got that fast. Once I was a good way ahead of him I put on my blinkers and slowed down. The C230 was so stable at high speeds. I loved it. But not anymore will i do it again.

speedfrk

I drove a RSX-S and it is like a motorcycle. You have to rev the crap out of it to get any power, and even then it is lacking in torque. So a RSX driver would really have to know what he (she) is doing to beat a C230. That is what I like so much about this car-lots of torque, all the time. Makes it easy to drive fast compared to a RSX type car.

BlackC230Coupe

is your car an auto timmy?
and i guess u dont have to worry about speeding since i remeber u said u were going out with the police's cheifs daughter or sumthin like that. you lucky Bit%$ .

greg230

the rsx is just like the integra before it, a gussied up econobox.

If not driven to its absolute limit, shifted high in the rev band, and launched with a tenderly feathered clutch, and some stickier rims, its a dog. People are running 6.7-7.7 0-60 times, not very impressive numbers from the folks that brought you the truelly racing inspired ITR

And how do you think honda posts so great fuel efficiencies??? outside of the vtec range the engine generates so little hp and torque its sad. If the RSX driver is very experienced with his car, then he could edge out a victory vs a coupe. The avergae guy behind the wheel of the RSX isnt gonna be smoking even an auto c230.

TimmyC230boy

Yes it is an auto, and i kinda "do" have to worry about speeding. 10 or 15 over no biggie. But racing at over twice the legal speed is something he couldnt help me with.


Speedfrk: You are absolutely right! Its like the S2000, a very quick car but the level of driver knowledge must be very high to use all of the cars potential. I had my passenger side window down a little and it sounded like he hit the rev limiter in 1, 2, and 3. After that it sounded ok. He is/was a good driver as I have known him a good while, but that car is just hard to drive. Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt it have like 200 hp but only like 142 lb/ft torque? He has 8 hp on me but i have almost 60 lb/ft of torque on him. Let me get my Klemann pulley and upsolute chip and i will have more at the wheels than he has at the crank and over 80 more lb/ft torque. FUN FUN FUN!

speedfrk

Tim, Your figures seem right from what I read in the magazines and brochure. Actually torque is what everyone "feels" and thinks is HP. That is why a V-8 feels so good. The formula for calculating HP is (Torque x RPM)/5252 So you can see that you can get more HP just by raising the RPM even if the torque is relatively small. That is how motorcycles can get 100 hp from 600cc. They redline at 15,000rpm. The deal is they only weigh 400lbs, so torque is not as important as it is with a car that weighs 3000lbs. The RSX would be a pain to drive on a daily basis. Heck I didn't even like it on the test drive. With the Kleeman pulleys, the coupe will be a hard car to beat for most any other car (especially if you are already rolling) because of the mid-range torque. I'm seriously considering a set for my car. I just don't need any more tickets!

TimmyC230boy

Yeah that supercharged Camaro i had was, if i remember correctly, 435hp at 5000rpm, and 470 at 4000rpm. It was sooo sweet. It was an auto and it would bark the tires going from 2nd to 3rd at 93mph. It was a tough car to beat but even tougher to hook-up. But a set or 18 inch Vette rims running 295/35/18 with sticky tires helped.

But in all actuallity, the torque that the coupe makes at 3000 is so nice. When cruising on the interstate, you dont have to punch it and downshift like lets say a RSX or S2000 would have to to get all your torque, but with the Benz your torque is there all the time, i cant wait for another 25-30 accross the board.

dasMafia

good job timmy, I'm a little surprised, but then again, it takes a lot of ***** to relly make an RSX move...

GOOD KILL!

TimmyC230boy

Thanks DasMafia! With a better driver i think it would have been alot closer. I havent had a chance with a S2000 yet, but my friend racedthis girl at my church that has one and he beat her in his 98 eclispe gs. He has an intake and a muffler on it. But he is an excellent driver to boot. I have raced him and he has no torque what so ever, so unless we go from a standstill I can take him everytime. He haas dynoed his car more than 20 times and has a computer program that you input your vehicle into and the scan your dyno graph into it and then your transmission ratios and it will tell you the best places to shift for max acceleration. Its really neat.

Lynn

Tim, what is the name of that program. Can it be purchased anywhere?

Jorel C320

Congrats Timmy! Feels good don't it?!...gets addicting after a while.

In regards to the S2000...i know its a fast car but for some reason everyone is beating it. My friend raced his gsr and smoked it (but thats because he has NOS), but still, the GSR was only running about 14's. An eclipse GS is even more surprising. Those arnt really that fast even with intake and exhaust. Unless its was a GSX or GST. Anyways... i guess its all on the driver. Some just don't know how to shift. HAHHA...alrity, good luck on future races.

dasMafia

in general the reason that most people are able to out-drag an S2000 is that in order to get magazine-grade test results, you have to dump the clutch at about 6000rpm and hold on for dear life. simply put, most owner aren't willing to put their cars through that kind of abuse.

zimmer26

Still Das, you can't tell me that a mid sevens car can hang with a low to mid fives car. Unless the S2000 driver is a complete panty waste Timmy, you will get torn a new ahole. Our coupe is no speed demon and needs to be either lighter or have 30 to 40 more horses on tap to hang with and maybe put down some S2000/WRX/330is. Can you say pulley kit?

TimmyC230boy

I will ask him and try to get a copy if possible.

dasMafia

you're missing the point... for starters, the S2000 is a high 5s car on the street (traction limitations.....). the coupe is a 7.5 car with the auto, its fool proof and repeatable.

add to the fact that the S2000 looses about a second to for every 1000 RPM below 5500 that is is launched, I can find it really easy to see a 4000RPM launch run side-by-side with the C230... the honda is just that weak down low.

greg230

i have to agree with dasmafia here... just like the RSX below vtec, the s2k is a dog. its only a 5 second car if the clutch is dropped around 6k, any lower then that and chrysler town and country's and chevy villagers can smoke you

TimmyC230boy

do ya'll think that with a pulley kit the auto coupe can go into the 6's?

From what I know torque is how much you can "pull" so to speak, and HP is how fast you can pull it. I would much rather have a car with 200 hp and 200lb/ft of torque than a car with 240hp, and 145lb/ft torque like the RSX/S2000. Granted it probably is a fun car to drive but you almost have to drive it like you hate it to get any real performance. For the most part a torquey engine will go pretty good stoplight to stoplight but a high HP engine is a good topend car. Thus proving my point is the reason our 3/4 ton Chevy pickup can keep up with the coupe from 0-40mph. The thing makes sooo much torque it just comes off the line like a bat out of you know where. But by the time it gets to 45mph the torque has dropped of severly and it is falling behind quick. But the coupe actualy has more torque than hp, but it is still a fairly quick car though. A little more low-end torque and a little more top-end HP will make it one fun little car to drive.

greg230

i think the solid pully kit, and a chip can get you in the 6's.... maybe.