...performance and handling-you are all full of sh*t. The 3 series SPANKS the C Class in performance NO BS. I never had a chance to drive one 'till yesterday and I was shocked to find out how big the difference is. BUT the C Class still looks nicer IMHO, especially in '05 sports package

 

3 series are known to handle better than the C class, whats your point?

 

To say that before ya bash the car, DRIVE it. I used to bash it and I never drove it. Thats my point

 

Here we go again.

Luxury=MB
Performance=BMW

Lets give it a rest.

 

thank you, what model 3 series are you comparing and are you comparing it to your 240?

 

Mr. LorinserCClass:
Now that you've driven a BMW probably will understand my dilema... lol... though I've never liked BMW until this past decade where the cars finally came with some "style" for my taste... even the "ugly" ones (BMW) have always handled so nicely... I drive my wife's car every now and then, though her car will not outperform the simple extra power the C32 or E55 AMG beast has (hers is a simple 330i, diff. story would be if hers were the M version ), I can't complain about her car either... interior even look better than my C32 OR E beast (AMG too).. STILL with all of that... when it came to shove, I chose the MB... lol... (what a loyal or stupid am I huh?.... again, having had MB in my family all my life I wan't about to "dissapoint" them I guess...lol... )

As Mr. Jon200 indicated

As I also mentioned to Mr. JayinLauderdale on a previous posting...

Like Mr. Noble C320 said:

No better words!



Wiedermann

 

BMW has gotten snotty and lazy in the past couple of years with the increase of market share(or so it seems in the bay area). The service sucks a fat ****. They ****ed my rear cv shaft and basically denied responsibility for the whole thing. My cv boot was leaking and the bearings were trashed from the tech not torquing the bolts down. BMW USA told me to basically go file a complaint in the "go****yourself" department. There are countless other small incidents one of which I almost jumped the counter to beat the **** out of the service tech(they lost my car in the lot and tried to tell me I never brought it in). Nevertheless, I test drove a 325i before I bought my c230k ss and loved the feel of the car. Handled great and no body roll like the C. Acceleration to 100mph seemed extremely fast. But after remembering how bad I got reamed I decided to give MB a try. Plus I got too many tickets anyways. So far things look pretty good. My alignment was off a bit on my new car and they immediately scheduled me in the same week and got me a loaner car to play with. Rechecked the whole car and detailed it again.

 

this has already been established countless times that MB's look better and are more luxurious cars and BMW's are more geared towards performance and handling.

 

id still rather have a mercedes over a BMW. i like performance, but prefer the looks and i feel i get a great combo with my car.

and im not saying mine is as good as a bmw, im just saying it a good combo for my personal needs.

 

I guess I am a trouble maker :p turning into alweeen over here haha

 

nah I driven all c classes(not including C55 though)

 

 

Please say it ain't so!

 

the 330ci will toast a c320 stock.. but with 2 minor upgrades your rite their with them... i will race any 330i or ci "AUTO" and prove that i am rite their with them... bmw made a great car their 3 series is awesome but theirs not as many c320's in my area and whenever a 330 tries to outrun me their always questioning me at the next light why is your car staying with mine i blow those cars away all the time.. so now i have the lux of a benz with a bit more performance, ill give the handeling to beamer as i do not want my car to handle that way for my everyday driving.

stock vs stock beamer pulls 31/2 carlegnths inbetween to 93mph

c320 chipped vs stock bmw beamer pulls little less than 2 cars 93mph

c320 pullies and chip vs stock beamer neck and neck or whoever jumps first

c320 pullies and chip vs 330xi auto c320 wins by 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 cars 100

c320 pullies and chip vs 330xi stick (this also depends on driver but in my case) c320 pulles 1st and 2nd 330 pulls in 3rd to even it out 4th dead even till 115 mph
results between these cars have been consistent next place is to take it to the track..
this was done in on open straight road with no cars present..

 

OK, now mod the BMW equally, and what happens?

The reason why threads like this keep popping up is that there's a very weird contingent of MB owners who refuse to admit what's so obvious.

 

yes, very true. instead of fanning the flames more, let the ignorant ones keep thinking their stock c-class can take a 3 series. it's just kind of like bleh to see this come up again and again, nothing personal to lorinsercclass.

the 3 series is lighter than the c-class with the same power inline 6 engine and better suspension for a car that's faster and handles better. but the c-class will drive more comfortably and quieter on the highway, in addition to looking damn good anywhere. i drive on the highway often, i can forgo the handling for a better looking car, and even though the c320 can't beat a 330, i still have a bit of a compromise with the c320 coupe. as citron said, there's a decent combo, at least w/ the coupes.

 

no one is refusing to admit anything.....everyone is saying that

luxury = MB
performance = BMW

Choose your cup of tea.....!

Trust me, in a race, the driver also plays a big role in the game......sooo if u have an M3, C32, or PINTO, you gotta know how to handle the power.....

 

if someone thinks a stock MB with a stock BMW, with comparible engines, trannies, suspension, etc. can win they are in for a wakeup.

IMO though MB looks better inside and out and has decent handling, enough for me!

 

EXACTLY. Its not like they take it as a comment-they take it to the heart which I find funny. Anyways, with the influx of promotion on c classes right now I think potential customer should be aware/knowledgeable about the weakness and strenghts of both cars. I just happened to drive it a few days ago and I realized I probably spent a few K's just to make MY C Class ALMOST handle like the STOCK 3 series I drove. Thats why I bring this up, not just to 'fan the flames'.

 

I agree, but you are paying more for that handling and all. When I priced up a C230K Coupe and a BMW 325Ci, the Ci was a few thousand bucks more with the same equipment. I found the interior and exterior of the MB coupe to be more appealing to me and what I wanted. Now could I get beaten by a 325Ci? Yes I can, but I feel much better knowing I got more for my money that they did, at least in my opinion. Also I look at it this way, there are far more people with 3 series around my area than MB C class'. And I can count the amount of Coupes I have seen on one hand, I may need one extra finger or two on the other. But none have the Bi-Xenons like mine so I guess I am just that much more special..... I just did not get a good vibe from the BMW dealer. I stopped and looked 4 times and never got to even sit in one or have a sales person even attempt to help me. Actually walked past me one day to help the guy who just pulled up after I had been looking for 10 minutes or more. Went to the MB dealer and was helped right away. Then a few months later I came back and bought the MB just as I told the Sales Person I would do. He even remembered what car we were looking at without any notes or anything. That along with how much I liked the car sold me and we had our car a week later exactly as we wanted it! They had one at the port in Baltimore exactly the way we were going to order it. We had two colors picked and this was one of them. But anyhow, there is more to the car than handling and speed. I actually like to be comfy and like the car as well.

 

I am not sure how MB is that much more luxurious..still the same cheap plastics and not much difference in terms of leather...unless you want to count that ornament on the hood and call that a luxury item..lol

 

i openly admit my c320 stock had no chance with a 330 with only 2 mods you can be equal to in terms of flat out straight aways, to handle like a bmw well if you want that you should have bought a bmw.. most people dont even mod their 330's because they know they are already decently quick cars and theres not many other cars competing with it in terms of all around package that are in its class. (G35 excluded) however of course if you mod the beamer it will be faster but i didnt want a bmw i wanted a benz with a little more pedal to it so i bought a 320 4-matic and i can stay rite next to a 330i or ci auto off the line all the way through and that to me is the best for my preference..

 

In my (somewhat limited) experience, I think BMW's handling / performance edge over MB is more in the wheels and suspension.

When I compared the 318i vs C180K, they are both very similar in terms of performance and handling.
Engine-wise, MB wins - 1.9L NA I4 in the 318, and 1.8 SC I4 in the MB.
Ride quality, MB wins - both have equal tyres, but MB's suspension is tuned towards luxury.
Performance, very close - BMW should have better suspension, however any performance gained there is negated by the ***** tyres that are stock (195/65/HR15 on steel wheels / hubcaps) MB uses the same wheel / tyre combo, except a different brand of tyre.

Just my 2 cents.

With the new USDM 05' C230K SS, iirc it has 225/45/17 front, 245/40/17 rear.
Handling should be very good, the staggered setup will probably provide more grip than the non-staggered BMW setup (225/45/17 all round - i think?)
In comparing the C230K vs 325i however, the 325's I6 engine wins - hands down.

 

I did, my last car was a 2000 328Ci. I don't bash'em anywayz...lol

but my 32 can kick ***!! :v

 

I vote for LorinserCClass to be banned.