CynCarvin32

Well a friend has Civic EX 1999 and he turned it into a canyon/track car with over 220 hp to the front wheels (with an LSD). That car was equal to my C32 and it had only about 3k in motor mods (turbo kit was bought used so it was cheap). You cant get a W203 or W203 to be C32 fast for 3k

That civic went through hell every day of the week but still worked like a top. THe modified parts did fail every now and then but the chassis and interior were always perfect.

ctC230K

bump for an interesting thread

05Css

Bottom line is I owned a C240 for 3 years. Slow as a turtle and there is no way on earth it can take a C230k. I now own a C230 sedan 05 and the difference is night and day. With that said, this thread can be closed

drexappeal

Okay, aside from the track, who in their right mind would EVER go 80+ on a regular basis?

In L.A., the only time that happens for me is when it's 3 or 4am and I'm goin' home from a club or wherever I'm comin' from and I'm on the freeway.

Maybe there are more open roads in other places, but I'll still take the 230k over the 240. Now, given that the 240 does have more performance upgrades than the M271 engine, that's where the give/take comes in.

MB-BOB

I agree with Buellwinkle on this one. I just turned in my C230K SS loaner today. While I had it (during normal B service for my C320) I found the 1.8 to be much peppier from a stop than previous C240 loaners. However, I had to do a 30-60mph pull today to change lanes on the freeway, and was taken back a bit by the stumbling way the 1.8 auto downshifted. The V6 cars (imo) are smoother at this maneuver... the C320 handles it without any drama at all.

C230K SS is a fine car, and is far more fun at low speeds than the C240, and looks the part better than the C240 (or my C320). But at highway speeds (and above) the differences between it and the C240 are pretty moot. I'm not sure anyone buys an I-4 for top end pull, anyway.

Love the gas mileage on the C230K SS, btw. My normal commute in my C320 is 31mph at 23.4mpg, while the C230K SS did the same circuit today at 31mph and 27.2mpg.

ctC230K

WOW finally a c240 owner is honest. :p

ctC230K

In CT we have things called highways where there are no tolls, not so much congestion as LA, usually 3 lanes but slow people hog the left lane all the time. Every time I'm on the highway I do 70 minimum, 80 normally, 90 sometimes and 100+ rarely. Having a Valentine1 helps enormously.

Outland

Don't count on the butt dyno. The C240 is slower than the C230 anywhere.

mctwin2kman

Hehehe that is why I got the six speed. Even on a 75MPH pass I can accelerate quite well in 6th. Now if I am doing under 75 and need to really pass someone I can drop to 4th and she pulls nicely. Nice enough I did actually spank a Civic Si that was being an *** on the highway one night. Then again I think that was more driver than power since I tend to cut it tight while merging around big rigs that ride the left lane for no reason! Anyhow, the 6 speed does nicely. I have driven many C240 Auto loaners and I find they downshift too much when on the highway as well. At 60-65+ MPH and even slower at times I never need to really drop a gear and can remain in 6th and still pull up hills and around cars. If I want to do it quicker then I drop to 4th, since 5th is so close to 6th it is not very much quicker than 6th so I don't bother. Either was I really do not need to downshift at all when passing on a normal day! The C240 had to downshift to pass while going up a slight hill with between 1/2 and 3/4 pedal applied. On the C230 I can do 1/2 pedal on the same hill and pass the same way and have no need for a downshift!

Jim Banville

Your post seems more like a auto vs. manual comparison. The C240 w/ manual may have pulled as well as your manual C230.

drexappeal

Guess it's the downside of living in L.A. Hey, at least we ALL have nice cars that (if in traffic) look just as nice as when they're going fast...LOL.

ctC230K

I like to shift to 3rd for aholes in the left lane doing 55-65 just for that boost effect haha. wave goodbye and by the time you're finished you're a 1/4 mile ahead of them.

they make a c240 6 speed? i thought that was only auto or 4matic.

Jim Banville

I think you are right, but I know I've seen where people on this forum have C240's w/ manuals. Maybe it's a special order thing. Either way, you really shouldn't compare a manual and an automatic if your point is to compare different engines.

elchinocache

i go 80+ all the time. everyday on my commute to school. and when i go visit my brother in pa, i usually do about 90 the whole way. Ironically i get better gas mileage doing 80 than i do going 60.

elchinocache

does your valentine protect against pop radar?

Capt Nemo o2

Even more ironic I got better gas mileage in my Jeep at 100 than I did at 65 (Dont ask!)

Yes, I believe it was pre 2003 models. They didnt have a C230 sedan until the arival of the M271 engine. So the w203 SS pre '03 were C240's.

ctC230K

yes but only in versions 1.8 and up. nice threadjack btw!

mctwin2kman

They stopped importing them to the US when the C230K sedan came out, well actually the next year. I think you could get them through the 2004 model year but the 2005 ended that option in the US.

Edit: Also the only 240's I ever get are the 4 matic ones as well so my comparo may be off a tad. I have had C230K sedans as well and thought they were much quicker off the line as well as on the highway than the C240 was, even with the Auto Tranny in the 230!