c230k performance and depreciation...
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Originally Posted by MBBoston
The c230k gone after this year? Really? Where did you hear this?
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Mercedes to drop Kompressor supercharger technology in favor of turbos
STUTTGART -- Mercedes-Benz will drop supercharged Kompressor gasoline-powered engines from its lineup in favor of turbochargers.
Mercedes will add a turbocharged 2.0-liter gasoline engine for the A Class subcompact that debuts in Europe this autumn.
"Turbochargers are superior to superchargers in terms of noise and cost," said Juergen Frey, head of engine development for the A class. "When we introduced the supercharged engines it was the right decision. Turbocharging has greatly improved in the meantime, and we have virtually no turbo lag anymore."
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Originally Posted by Noble C320
It doesnt matter really. There is still going to be an entry level sedan. the C-Coupe however will take the axe. What im really waiting for is the Next generation C55 AMG. Thats going to be my next car! 
I'm looking forward to the W204 AMG as well. That should be a sweet car.
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Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
anyone have pics of the W204 besides all the common ones?
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Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
Yeah, MB can't not have a $30K sedan. If they killed C230 and only had a $38K C320, they'd lose a lot of first time buyers to A4 and 325i.
I'm looking forward to the W204 AMG as well. That should be a sweet car.
I'm looking forward to the W204 AMG as well. That should be a sweet car.
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I just bought my 2005 C230 Sedan and one of the things that I liked about it was the fact that this engine has been around since 1997. I had it in my '98 SLK230 and I'm sure they've perfected it in all those years ( I can only hope, anyway).
Like all cars, the first model ALWAYS has it's quirks, like mine in '98, and since this C230 body and engine has been around for a while, for me and my peace of mind, it was the best bet.
Oh well, at least that's the way I see it.
Like all cars, the first model ALWAYS has it's quirks, like mine in '98, and since this C230 body and engine has been around for a while, for me and my peace of mind, it was the best bet.
Oh well, at least that's the way I see it.
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2003 C230 Kompressor Sedan
Originally Posted by FrankW
LOL...so no prove or what?
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, and I would bet there was no paperwork. And since you have called him on it, you won't see him post in this thread again!! 
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so how long has the 1.8L engine in today's C230K's been around ?
2-3 years ? I remember reading somewhere that some/most of the 2002's has 2.3L engines.
and the 1.8L is going away next MY ?
2-3 years ? I remember reading somewhere that some/most of the 2002's has 2.3L engines.
and the 1.8L is going away next MY ?
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Originally Posted by SteveS
He can't prove it because he can't capture a dream... the only proof he could have is to post the bill of sale, but since he got it from an old family friend , , and I would bet there was no paperwork. And since you have called him on it, you won't see him post in this thread again!!
, , and I would bet there was no paperwork. And since you have called him on it, you won't see him post in this thread again!!
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
so how long has the 1.8L engine in today's C230K's been around ?
2-3 years ? I remember reading somewhere that some/most of the 2002's has 2.3L engines.
and the 1.8L is going away next MY ?
2-3 years ? I remember reading somewhere that some/most of the 2002's has 2.3L engines.
and the 1.8L is going away next MY ?
Originally Posted by SteveS
He can't prove it because he can't capture a dream... the only proof he could have is to post the bill of sale, but since he got it from an old family friend , , and I would bet there was no paperwork. And since you have called him on it, you won't see him post in this thread again!!
, , and I would bet there was no paperwork. And since you have called him on it, you won't see him post in this thread again!! Last edited by CitronC230K_03; Sep 14, 2004 at 03:57 PM.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
2.3L (M111) were in the 2002. 1.8L (M271) were intorduced in 2003.
Originally Posted by PRHeloPilot
I just bought my 2005 C230 Sedan and one of the things that I liked about it was the fact that this engine has been around since 1997. I had it in my '98 SLK230 and I'm sure they've perfected it in all those years ( I can only hope, anyway).
Like all cars, the first model ALWAYS has it's quirks, like mine in '98, and since this C230 body and engine has been around for a while, for me and my peace of mind, it was the best bet.
Oh well, at least that's the way I see it.
Like all cars, the first model ALWAYS has it's quirks, like mine in '98, and since this C230 body and engine has been around for a while, for me and my peace of mind, it was the best bet.
Oh well, at least that's the way I see it.
so can anyone verify, that indeed the 1.8L engine is going away ?
Is that why so many TUNERS are staying away from 1.8L mods and kits ?
interesting developments....
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
The C230K sedan is only sold in North America and that will most likely get axed since they are going to NA engines in the future! Maybe a few Turbo'ed ones but they will eventually die as well.
But I don't think they're going to abandon the C230K's pricepoint at $30K. It'll just be replaced by a new C class with a slightly higher number, would be my guess.
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most likely it will say Turbo rather than Kompressor if they are going that way. Just as the CL65 and SL65 say V12 Bi-Turbo on the fenders. If the new engine is Turbo it will more than likely say Turbo I would think.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
most likely it will say Turbo rather than Kompressor if they are going that way. Just as the CL65 and SL65 say V12 Bi-Turbo on the fenders. If the new engine is Turbo it will more than likely say Turbo I would think.
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Kompressor is Supercharger, thats why i said if the engines become turbo charged then they will more than likely say Turbo on the car. Just like the CL65 and SL65 say V12 Bi-Turbo.
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c230 kompressor
Originally Posted by ilko
The 3-series have more power than the C230K. But they also are everywhere and their interior looks outdated.
New (E90) models will be shown at the Frankfurt Auto Show later this year, but from what I've seen, they look a lot worse than the outgoing ones (E46). I'm said to say it, because I love the way BMW has progressed with their styling over the years but that's the truth. The E90 won't be available in the US until next Fall at the earliest.
Audi is doing a revision of the A4, you should check it out. It will be available with the DSG transmission, which is amazing! And your wife will be happy with it as well.
New (E90) models will be shown at the Frankfurt Auto Show later this year, but from what I've seen, they look a lot worse than the outgoing ones (E46). I'm said to say it, because I love the way BMW has progressed with their styling over the years but that's the truth. The E90 won't be available in the US until next Fall at the earliest.
Audi is doing a revision of the A4, you should check it out. It will be available with the DSG transmission, which is amazing! And your wife will be happy with it as well.
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c230 kompressor
Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
I've read that "Kompressor" is actually the German translation of "supercharger", so I would imagine that if the new engines aren't supercharged, they won't be called "Kompressor".
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Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
Well just because they are dropping Kompressor and going to turbocharging doesn't mean the C230 will go away. They'll probably drop the "Kompressor" moniker and then perhaps change the name to maybe C250 or something.
But I don't think they're going to abandon the C230K's pricepoint at $30K. It'll just be replaced by a new C class with a slightly higher number, would be my guess.
But I don't think they're going to abandon the C230K's pricepoint at $30K. It'll just be replaced by a new C class with a slightly higher number, would be my guess.
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Originally Posted by HITMAN
I love the kompressors it will be sad to see them go
