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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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@#$%@#$% Peeling Clearcoat!!! @#$@

How can this be?

I know I'll get a few "This post sucks without pictures" but I can't post any pictures cuz I don't have my camera, going back home in a few days and I just had to let tell somebody cuz this is killing me.

Woke up this morning, the sky is blue, the grass is green... Walking to my freshly waxed car, well 4 days old wax. My baby is shining in all her glory, after inspecting her I notice a small bird dropping near the gas door so I open the trunk, pull out the MF and quick-d and as I mist and wipe the car I notice something.. WTF???? peeling clearcoat$%$?$%?????? How can this be? a 4 year old, scratch free and pampered car, with peeling clearcoat?

Someone, please someone tell me how this could happen on my car? I searched the forum and nothing about peeling cearcoat, I went on autopia and red about this on 10 year old or re-sprayed car, but on a 2001 Mercedes?

What can be done? I can't just have it re-sprayed, what if it happens somewhere else? anybody can tell me if this is covered or if this happened before? My car was bult on december 12th 2000, it's out of warranty at 97,808 km? I'm gonna go see my SA when I come back from my trip this thursday, you guys think it'S all right to wait a couple of days. I need help! I think imma gonna cry now!!

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Anybody? some help? bumping this

News update: Car's now for sale 500$ and it'S yours, just got a phone call from Nicedeboy's dad and I don't want no trouble

Really.. anybody here familliar with paint and know if Mercedes could pay the tab? thanks
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Narcissus
Anybody? some help? bumping this

News update: Car's now for sale 500$ and it'S yours, just got a phone call from Nicedeboy's dad and I don't want no trouble

Really.. anybody here familliar with paint and know if Mercedes could pay the tab? thanks
Talk to your dealership. If the car is well cared for and clean I bet mb will take this hit on this one. It is a new car. Honestly I forget what the paint warranty is but I think it is longer than the bumper to bumper portion. I realy dont know about the paint warranty though.

If it is that close MB will help you out. This is not normal at all.

Good luck.

I have had 13 year old MB's and the paint never had any issues. A friend has a 270k mile old 1990 S-CLass and the car looks perfect with no faded or cracked/pealing paint.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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It seems odd that the factory paint job would have peeling clearcoat. That would be very unusual.

BUT, it is possible your car was damaged in transit when it was being shipped, and partially repainted at the port of entry.

Happens all the time. I could see that "aftermarket" paint peeling. It is not done under the same conditions as the factory paint.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Gas caused the clear coat to peal in that area. Constant over filling on the car will wear down the clear coat and dull the paint. Bird crap is acidic and can and will damage paint over time...
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Talk to your dealership. If the car is well cared for and clean I bet mb will take this hit on this one. It is a new car. Honestly I forget what the paint warranty is but I think it is longer than the bumper to bumper portion. I realy dont know about the paint warranty though.

If it is that close MB will help you out. This is not normal at all.

Good luck.

I have had 13 year old MB's and the paint never had any issues. A friend has a 270k mile old 1990 S-CLass and the car looks perfect with no faded or cracked/pealing paint.
I know it's the weirdest thing, I'm gonna call MB customer service monday and find out about paint warranty, hope it's just there and will not happen anywhere else...
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
Gas caused the clear coat to peal in that area. Constant over filling on the car will wear down the clear coat and dull the paint. Bird crap is acidic and can and will damage paint over time...
I've made sure never to top off the car, and it never overflown, as for bird crap, I never had any stay long enough to do any damage, I inspect the car every time I go in or come out so that's at least 4-5 times a day, and I always carry 2 MF towels and a bottle of quick detailer in the trunk...

This is just a really strange thing.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nickle
It seems odd that the factory paint job would have peeling clearcoat. That would be very unusual.

BUT, it is possible your car was damaged in transit when it was being shipped, and partially repainted at the port of entry.

Happens all the time. I could see that "aftermarket" paint peeling. It is not done under the same conditions as the factory paint.
I will check with my SA advisor as to the paint thickness, hopefully this is not the case, if they did repaint they did a really good job cuz I never noticed any orange peel or blending effects, the rest of the paint is flawless and well taken care of, barely any swirl marks on a 4 year old car says a lot about how **** I am
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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How often do you wax or buff the paint? You can actually over wax a car! Everytime you wax you are sealing up the poors of the paint. After a vehicle is new and painted if you wax to soon you can actually affect the paint for the life of the car if you do it too soon. You can seal up the poors of the paint and it will not cure properly. I have seen this happen on cars that are waxed to often with a semi-abrasive and even non-abrasive wax's. You can also wax the clear coat right off if done way to often. Twice a year is about all you should ever wax a car. And if when you are waxing you notice the pad you are using turning the color of you car color, that lets you know you are actually removing something....
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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I wax twice every 2 or 3 weeks, and I remove all the wax every 3 months with a wax remover, everything is done by hand so I don't know how I could have damaged this.... I'm gonna go see my advisor thursday and see what he's got to say.... even if I waxed every week this shouldn't happen....
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Narcissus
I wax twice every 2 or 3 weeks, and I remove all the wax every 3 months with a wax remover, everything is done by hand so I don't know how I could have damaged this.... I'm gonna go see my advisor thursday and see what he's got to say.... even if I waxed every week this shouldn't happen....
You seal the paint every time you wax, that is what causes issues with the paint. It can no breath properly then does what has happened here! Some people will say it is fine, but if you talk to a painter he/she will tell you otherwise! My family owned a body shop for 75 years and I talked to the painters quite often when I was there. Got lots of tips on how to not destroy the paint on a car. Which you can do by over waxing it. May not be the cause here but it could be. Just like buffing except not as quick to remove the paint and portective clear coat on the vehicle and MB paint is soft and very susceptable to damage.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
You seal the paint every time you wax, that is what causes issues with the paint. It can no breath properly then does what has happened here! Some people will say it is fine, but if you talk to a painter he/she will tell you otherwise! My family owned a body shop for 75 years and I talked to the painters quite often when I was there. Got lots of tips on how to not destroy the paint on a car. Which you can do by over waxing it. May not be the cause here but it could be. Just like buffing except not as quick to remove the paint and portective clear coat on the vehicle and MB paint is soft and very susceptable to damage.
That is extremely strange, I've never heard of this before.... Then I believe Meguiars should be at fault for not warning their users?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Narcissus
That is extremely strange, I've never heard of this before.... Then I believe Meguiars should be at fault for not warning their users?
All depends on the wax used and how you do it actually! But most people do not wax there car every other week either! I said worst case scenerio, but I have seen it happen mostly when people just don't know how to wax a car and leave it on there way to long! As for why it is happening to yours, only the dealer can answer that. But the cause could be from the wax removal process you said you do a few times a year. Over time you will wear the clearcoat down to much and it will not protect the paint under it and will begin to show problems. This is not to say you should not wax your car, but that is a little more than most people would do. I love keeping my car clean and all but I have not even waxed it yet and it is almost two years old. I don't because the paint looks great as it is, but that could just be the color choice and the fact that the coupe really only has the hood in direct sunlight since the rest of the top is glass. Then again I do need to do it before winter time weather sets in. Also my cars are garaged and only out in the sun during work and we try to park in the shaded areas often. I am not sure what the paint warranty is on the benz but check with the dealer, some manufacturers will warranty obvious paint flaws for a certain time, and most past the normal warranty.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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What kinda of wax remover are you using?
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is not how you remove it, it's how you apply it !
thats why it was being applied so often!
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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maybe its acid bird poop
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