Car & Driver C230 segment
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Car & Driver C230 segment
So I was watching car and driver tv this weekend, and they had a little segment on the C230 sport sedan. Usually I find their reviews interesting although sometimes biased. In addition to bashing the car and calling it cheap(not in a good way), they got everything wrong that they listed for it. The caption said 2004 C230 Sedan but they showed a 2005 SS with the new updates. Their narrative was taken straight from an older article on their website about the 2003 coupe, and they said the sedan starts at $25k and well equipped with leather and 17-in wheels tops out at ~$27k which they were complaining about as too expensive. This looks like they didn't even test out the new 05 sedan (or 04 for that matter) and just rehashed an old review on new photos.
I would never rely on a magazine's opinion, but I wonder how many of their other reviews are done with such bad quality control. They can say whatever they want about the car, but they should at least get the facts right. Anyway, I just felt like I had to expose this bad piece of journalism.
I would never rely on a magazine's opinion, but I wonder how many of their other reviews are done with such bad quality control. They can say whatever they want about the car, but they should at least get the facts right. Anyway, I just felt like I had to expose this bad piece of journalism.
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You should write an e-mail to the editor of the mag and complain about there lack of true statement on the TV program. Since it is there name on the show they may actually care to have factual info and not just BS.
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2005 C320wz
in a recent article, car and driver says the C320 cannot be ordered with a 6-speed manual, only the C230 can be ordered with a 6-speed manual.
and my C320 with a 6-speed manual is on the boat coming over here
and my C320 with a 6-speed manual is on the boat coming over here
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Originally Posted by mick1
in a recent article, car and driver says the C320 cannot be ordered with a 6-speed manual, only the C230 can be ordered with a 6-speed manual.
and my C320 with a 6-speed manual is on the boat coming over here
and my C320 with a 6-speed manual is on the boat coming over here
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A show worthy of CBS. I think the writer did a review on the coupe and the film crew shot the sedan. Either way, it's an embarrassment only rivaled by Dan Rather. I don't think I'll be renewing my C&D subscription.
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2005 C320wz
Originally Posted by Maestro
It's an illusion, you're not really getting a C320 6spd. They just rebadged a C230K and charged you an extra few grand.
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Originally Posted by mick1
nah. actually, there's a C230k with the exact options sitting at the dealer right now. I had ordered it before i found out i could get a C320 with a 6-speed manual. the dealer didn't cancel the 1st order I had placed. It's a pretty cool C230k. it's a brilliant silver car with black leather, fold down rear seat, lighting package, sunroof package, premium sound, dvd comand navigation, and 6-speed manual
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
You should write an e-mail to the editor of the mag and complain about there lack of true statement on the TV program. Since it is there name on the show they may actually care to have factual info and not just BS.
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2005 C320wz
Originally Posted by Maestro
Nice. If you remove COMMAND and change the color to Pewter, you've got my favorite C230K. I wouldn't buy a MB with COMMAND... it's supposed to be horrible. I would go with an aftermarket nav system, such as the Eclipse.
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2005 C320wz
Originally Posted by mb-scott
I would never rely on a magazine's opinion, but I wonder how many of their other reviews are done with such bad quality control. They can say whatever they want about the car, but they should at least get the facts right. Anyway, I just felt like I had to expose this bad piece of journalism.
http://newcartestdrive.com/review-in...&ReviewID=1585
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Buyers will still pay a slight premium for the three-pointed star when compared with a similarly equipped BMW 3 Series or Audi A4.
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Originally Posted by mick1
How do you feel about this review of the 2005 mb c-class ? Fair or they don't know what they are talking about ?
http://newcartestdrive.com/review-in...&ReviewID=1585
http://newcartestdrive.com/review-in...&ReviewID=1585
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Originally Posted by Maestro
C230K Sedan vs 325i with the same options... the 325i is significantly more expensive, at least in Canada.
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05 CLK 320
"The most familiar C-Class models are the sedans. Most popular among those is the C240 sedan ($32,650), powered by a 168-horsepower 2.6-liter V6 with three valves per cylinder and a standard five-speed Touch Shift automatic transmission with manual shift mode. C240 is well-equipped, with leather seat inserts, front seats with power height and backrest adjustment, power windows, cruise control, a seven-speaker audio system with weatherband, laurel-wood trim, and 16-inch aluminum wheels with all-season tires. The C320 sedan ($37,950) upgrades to the 215-horsepower 3.2-liter version of the V6 and a higher level of luxury amenities, including dual-zone automatic climate control, a Bose 10-speaker stereo, reading lamps, 10-way power front seats with memory and a power-adjustable steering column. "
WTF, is that supposed to mean, 10 speaker bose, reading lamps,dual zone wtf. 2005 C320 uses a 2004 sound system while the other 2005 class use a H/K very interesting, he needs to awarded a Noble prize in literature for this article,
but other than that and other mistakes in the article it is a pro mercedes article.
WTF, is that supposed to mean, 10 speaker bose, reading lamps,dual zone wtf. 2005 C320 uses a 2004 sound system while the other 2005 class use a H/K very interesting, he needs to awarded a Noble prize in literature for this article,
but other than that and other mistakes in the article it is a pro mercedes article.
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Originally Posted by mick1
the eclipse probably offers better functionality but i like the look of the comand better. Maybe it's because i'm used to looking at it .
I like it better than my charcoal.
GIVE me it!! :p
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Originally Posted by cracker123
"The most familiar C-Class models are the sedans. Most popular among those is the C240 sedan ($32,650), powered by a 168-horsepower 2.6-liter V6 with three valves per cylinder and a standard five-speed Touch Shift automatic transmission with manual shift mode. C240 is well-equipped, with leather seat inserts, front seats with power height and backrest adjustment, power windows, cruise control, a seven-speaker audio system with weatherband, laurel-wood trim, and 16-inch aluminum wheels with all-season tires. The C320 sedan ($37,950) upgrades to the 215-horsepower 3.2-liter version of the V6 and a higher level of luxury amenities, including dual-zone automatic climate control, a Bose 10-speaker stereo, reading lamps, 10-way power front seats with memory and a power-adjustable steering column. "
WTF, is that supposed to mean, 10 speaker bose, reading lamps,dual zone wtf. 2005 C320 uses a 2004 sound system while the other 2005 class use a H/K very interesting, he needs to awarded a Noble prize in literature for this article,
but other than that and other mistakes in the article it is a pro mercedes article.
WTF, is that supposed to mean, 10 speaker bose, reading lamps,dual zone wtf. 2005 C320 uses a 2004 sound system while the other 2005 class use a H/K very interesting, he needs to awarded a Noble prize in literature for this article,
but other than that and other mistakes in the article it is a pro mercedes article.
Edit: Nope the 2005 has MB-Tex as well. But it does still have standard HK audio and power seats.
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Originally Posted by hanke
I don't recall the exact language but they also said that the 6 speed manual was not very smooth. 
By the way, I did send the editors a letter. Let's see if they respond.
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Originally Posted by cracker123
"The most familiar C-Class models are the sedans. Most popular among those is the C240 sedan ($32,650).
