E55 AMG brakes on a W203
01-24-2005, 11:33 PM
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2005 Obsidian Black C230 Komp Sports Sedan, 2006 Iridium Silver ML350 SUV
WOW... best car ive seen yet. really wanna see it in real life (i live not that far from walnut).. anyways... does the kit comes w/ like bigger master cylinder and all that? or just bigger rotors and calipers?
01-25-2005, 01:41 AM
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i was told a new master cylinder was not really nessessary. its only for super high performance which most of is would never do.
my car might be at tws in walnut on weds-thurs, if you want to check it out. but other then that my car is almost at all the bigger car shows.
my car might be at tws in walnut on weds-thurs, if you want to check it out. but other then that my car is almost at all the bigger car shows.
01-25-2005, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
i was told a new master cylinder was not really nessessary. its only for super high performance which most of is would never do.
my car might be at tws in walnut on weds-thurs, if you want to check it out. but other then that my car is almost at all the bigger car shows.
my car might be at tws in walnut on weds-thurs, if you want to check it out. but other then that my car is almost at all the bigger car shows.
do u use it as a daily driver?
01-25-2005, 01:51 AM
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ummmm hellllllllllllllllll no lol. i cant daily drive it thats crazy.
but when i have it, trust me i have my fun and i put my money to work.
brakes great, so great and cheap that my friend with a saleen mustang pushing 550whp is going to custom fit the brakes onto his car.
but when i have it, trust me i have my fun and i put my money to work.
brakes great, so great and cheap that my friend with a saleen mustang pushing 550whp is going to custom fit the brakes onto his car.
01-25-2005, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
ummmm hellllllllllllllllll no lol. i cant daily drive it thats crazy.
but when i have it, trust me i have my fun and i put my money to work.
brakes great, so great and cheap that my friend with a saleen mustang pushing 550whp is going to custom fit the brakes onto his car.
but when i have it, trust me i have my fun and i put my money to work.
brakes great, so great and cheap that my friend with a saleen mustang pushing 550whp is going to custom fit the brakes onto his car.
lol, damn to bad u don't daily drive it to put that C43 motor to work!
But anyway, yeah i don't blame u for not driving it daily.lol, is your friend gonna keep the AMG logo on the brakes?
01-25-2005, 12:55 PM
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The True OG Modded out W203
Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
lol, damn to bad u don't daily drive it to put that C43 motor to work! But anyway, yeah i don't blame u for not driving it daily.
lol, is your friend gonna keep the AMG logo on the brakes?
But anyway, yeah i don't blame u for not driving it daily.lol, is your friend gonna keep the AMG logo on the brakes?
Had the pleasure to have a ride in his car, its HELLA fast comparable to a modded c32....
01-25-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
i was told a new master cylinder was not really nessessary. its only for super high performance which most of is would never do.
Im am VERY interested in this kit for my car.
01-25-2005, 04:23 PM
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Can you expound on that? Is your pedal throw much longer then before? How does pedal feel compare with before?
Im am VERY interested in this kit for my car.
Im am VERY interested in this kit for my car.
01-25-2005, 07:52 PM
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Wide203: I like the car. That body kit looks good. Who makes it?
Brakes look awesome, but a word of caution.
We looked at fitting E55 brakes on W203 several years ago. Parts are fairly inexpensive from the dealer, however there is a problem with added unspung weight from going to 14.2'' rotor and 8-piston caliper.
I do not have exact number in front of me right now, but it is approximately 20 lbs. per corner when going from C32 brakes to E55s and close to 40 lbs when going from stock 240/230/320 brakes to E55s. Now add new heavier (10-20 lbs. per wheel) 19'' wheels and heavier (3-10 lbs. per tire) tires needed to clear the calipers and one could easily add 150 to 200 lbs. of unsprung weight to the car.
Unless suspension is retuned at the same time, the handling and steering response goes out of the window. Plus exta weight is like carrying an extra passenger.
Other brake kits, like 14'' Brembo are actually very close in weight to stock 240/230/320 brakes and lighter than C32 brakes. New, 05' CLK55 Front 6-piston caliper, 13.6'' rotor - rear 4 piston caliper, 13'' rotor kit, looks to be a lighter and less expensive alternative, when it comes out next month.
Brakes look awesome, but a word of caution.
We looked at fitting E55 brakes on W203 several years ago. Parts are fairly inexpensive from the dealer, however there is a problem with added unspung weight from going to 14.2'' rotor and 8-piston caliper.
I do not have exact number in front of me right now, but it is approximately 20 lbs. per corner when going from C32 brakes to E55s and close to 40 lbs when going from stock 240/230/320 brakes to E55s. Now add new heavier (10-20 lbs. per wheel) 19'' wheels and heavier (3-10 lbs. per tire) tires needed to clear the calipers and one could easily add 150 to 200 lbs. of unsprung weight to the car.
Unless suspension is retuned at the same time, the handling and steering response goes out of the window. Plus exta weight is like carrying an extra passenger.
Other brake kits, like 14'' Brembo are actually very close in weight to stock 240/230/320 brakes and lighter than C32 brakes. New, 05' CLK55 Front 6-piston caliper, 13.6'' rotor - rear 4 piston caliper, 13'' rotor kit, looks to be a lighter and less expensive alternative, when it comes out next month.
01-25-2005, 08:12 PM
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thats for the comment, the flares are custom by autowerks in el monte.
in my opinion the brakes are a lot better when trying to slow down at high speeds ( i had the c32 brakes before this ). 40 lbs extra ( from both brakes )is not too bad, a sub and a amp can weigh that much (not including the box and stuff). as for the weight from wheels and tires, lots of people have 19's anyways. so theres nothing really special there.
the 14" brakes are more for looks anyways, the c32 brakes are good enough for a stock w203.
its like why anyone would buy 19" rims over a lighter more practical 17" rim.
in my opinion the brakes are a lot better when trying to slow down at high speeds ( i had the c32 brakes before this ). 40 lbs extra ( from both brakes )is not too bad, a sub and a amp can weigh that much (not including the box and stuff). as for the weight from wheels and tires, lots of people have 19's anyways. so theres nothing really special there.
the 14" brakes are more for looks anyways, the c32 brakes are good enough for a stock w203.
its like why anyone would buy 19" rims over a lighter more practical 17" rim.
Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Wide203: I like the car. That body kit looks good. Who makes it?
Brakes look awesome, but a word of caution.
We looked at fitting E55 brakes on W203 several years ago. Parts are fairly inexpensive from the dealer, however there is a problem with added unspung weight from going to 14.2'' rotor and 8-piston caliper.
I do not have exact number in front of me right now, but it is approximately 20 lbs. per corner when going from C32 brakes to E55s and close to 40 lbs when going from stock 240/230/320 brakes to E55s. Now add new heavier (10-20 lbs. per wheel) 19'' wheels and heavier (3-10 lbs. per tire) tires needed to clear the calipers and one could easily add 150 to 200 lbs. of unsprung weight to the car.
Unless suspension is retuned at the same time, the handling and steering response goes out of the window. Plus exta weight is like carrying an extra passenger.
Other brake kits, like 14'' Brembo are actually very close in weight to stock 240/230/320 brakes and lighter than C32 brakes. New, 05' CLK55 Front 6-piston caliper, 13.6'' rotor - rear 4 piston caliper, 13'' rotor kit, looks to be a lighter and less expensive alternative, when it comes out next month.
Brakes look awesome, but a word of caution.
We looked at fitting E55 brakes on W203 several years ago. Parts are fairly inexpensive from the dealer, however there is a problem with added unspung weight from going to 14.2'' rotor and 8-piston caliper.
I do not have exact number in front of me right now, but it is approximately 20 lbs. per corner when going from C32 brakes to E55s and close to 40 lbs when going from stock 240/230/320 brakes to E55s. Now add new heavier (10-20 lbs. per wheel) 19'' wheels and heavier (3-10 lbs. per tire) tires needed to clear the calipers and one could easily add 150 to 200 lbs. of unsprung weight to the car.
Unless suspension is retuned at the same time, the handling and steering response goes out of the window. Plus exta weight is like carrying an extra passenger.
Other brake kits, like 14'' Brembo are actually very close in weight to stock 240/230/320 brakes and lighter than C32 brakes. New, 05' CLK55 Front 6-piston caliper, 13.6'' rotor - rear 4 piston caliper, 13'' rotor kit, looks to be a lighter and less expensive alternative, when it comes out next month.
01-25-2005, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SiLvaC32
i was gonna purchase this kit before i put on my brembos, but everythin works the same. you can even buy a bigger rotor 380mm for the front. i've seen alot in taiwan. i droved one... and it stopped great.
i was told 380 wouldnt work with my rims. only rims with speical cut puts could pull it off...
if you got 20's there are 390mm rotors.
01-25-2005, 10:07 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Originally Posted by Wide w203
thats for the comment, the flares are custom by autowerks in el monte.
in my opinion the brakes are a lot better when trying to slow down at high speeds ( i had the c32 brakes before this ). 40 lbs extra ( from both brakes )is not too bad, a sub and a amp can weigh that much (not including the box and stuff). as for the weight from wheels and tires, lots of people have 19's anyways. so theres nothing really special there.
the 14" brakes are more for looks anyways, the c32 brakes are good enough for a stock w203.
its like why anyone would buy 19" rims over a lighter more practical 17" rim.
in my opinion the brakes are a lot better when trying to slow down at high speeds ( i had the c32 brakes before this ). 40 lbs extra ( from both brakes )is not too bad, a sub and a amp can weigh that much (not including the box and stuff). as for the weight from wheels and tires, lots of people have 19's anyways. so theres nothing really special there.
the 14" brakes are more for looks anyways, the c32 brakes are good enough for a stock w203.
its like why anyone would buy 19" rims over a lighter more practical 17" rim.
Just an FYI, 40lbs at the wheels = ~160lbs added to the car, which in turn = a loss of ~16HP. That is the way the ratio's work. Sucks, I know.
However, like you said, for a car that is mainly show, it looks great and it is a hell of a deal!
I am also really anxious to get the 6-piston ones in and see what they look like!
Thanks and good post!
Brad
01-25-2005, 11:43 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Originally Posted by The Doctor
Evosport homies: How do you think the W211 BBK compare in weight to the W210 E55 brakes? ty.
Thanks,
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01-26-2005, 04:12 AM
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4 wheeled car.
Originally Posted by otoupalik
Best guess is about 20lbs heavier. the weight is all in the rotor. We are working on a trick 2-piece rotor for that caliper, that would make this whole conversation moot!
Thanks,
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Thanks,
Brad
