vadim

Ya know, blue light is used in insect zappers to attract bugs and other pests I guess some never grow enough to realize that

inFiniTE LooP

well, i personally just wanted it because i liked the thought of having white light rather than yellow light for the interior, and i also expected it to be brighter than what it is

inFiniTE LooP

huh???

CitronC230K_03

cool, to each their own. im not knocking it, i was just curious. never knew they had xenon interior lighting. your looking for a xenon, or bluish hue right? not actual Xenon lighting.

vadim

He dOeS nOt KnOw tHe DiFfeReNce, anything blue is Xenon!

CitronC230K_03

kinda my point. you just want higher wattage then. i mean if you require bright white light in your cars interior, thats a bit much. only thing i can think of needing all the light is if you used your passenger seat as a dental chair.

inFiniTE LooP

yep , they were advertised as xenon so that's why i called them that.

do you know of any other bulbs to use since these dont seem to be working out :o

rubensans

Then the bulbs are less bright than stock? Are there a lot more white/blue?

For the glove box, you have to put a screwdriver on the right and make some presure to release a plastic clip; Mantaining the presure, from the up of the light you have to press it down.

Best Regards.

AaronC

I received mine in the mail, but it did not come with any 10w bulbs, only 5w. I am waiting for an answer back on why I did not get 10w bulbs.

inFiniTE LooP

mine are all only 5w as well

...and yes, they seem to be darker than the OEM bulbs because of this 5w discrepancy

rubensans

5W? This are only for glovebox, ashtray, traffic plate.

Dome lights and trunk lights should be 10W.

The large onces should be 10W !!!!

Best Regards.

Ruben.

inFiniTE LooP

i opened her up again and i couldn't seem to find the plastic clip you were talkin about, you actually got your bulb out by doint this then?

rubensans

Yes; will also take some pics.

AaronC

I got this as a response to my email about the 5w bulbs:
Here is my response:

vadim

You even want to continue to deal with these shameless liars?

FYI: Xenon bulbs generate much less heat, produce much more light (up to 300%) and still consume less power (30% less) than halogens. Noone in the right mind puts Xenons on the inside, unless it is a huge sporting facility or operating room. Speaking of which, you may want to consider this:

http://www.vikingmedical.com/orl_headlamp.php

Not too expensive, only $6K. Peanuts for a lighting enthusiast, right? :p

lars

No, no, no. Vadim, you're talking about HID's, which by definition are filled with xenon but also have other vital ingredients like metal halide salts. For differences between HID and Xenon bulbs you could see this thread

Aaron's supplier is right. These xenon-filled bulbs, which are not HID's, generate more heat because they are filled with a gas whose molecules absorb energy but do not otherwise accelerate breakdown of the filament. This is the reason xenon-filled halogen bulbs produce more brightness for the same output: the bulb heats up more and the filament responds by glowing brighter. These 5W bulbs may not be halogen coated, just regular tungsten filament bulbs with a xenon cavity fill, but the same principle applies.

Aaron's bulbs produce less light for a second reason (other than the lower wattage). They have a coating which absorbs visible light from the red end of the spectrum (the longer wavelengths). Less visible light = less useful illumination. You have to buy these blue-looking bulbs for their good looks alone because they don't work as well as normal ones of the same wattage. Not only that, the bulbs will burn out more quickly because they run hotter.

Marketing glitz--you have to love it.

vadim

C'mon Lars --
xenon - as any inert gas - adds nothing to performance of a halogen bulb. It serves as a ballast, nothing more. To understand this, let's see how a halogen bulb works.

Early incandescent bulbs had vacuum inside.
They were replaced by bulbs filled by inert gases - usually argon or argon-nitrogen mixture. It was discovered that inert gas slows down evaporation of the filament. Tungsten atoms evaporating from the filament can be bounced back to the filament by gas atoms. The filament can be operated at a higher temperature with a fill gas than with a vacuum. This results in more efficient radiation of visible light.
The next step up is a halogen bulb. Halogen bulbs are filled with an inert gas with a trace of halogen (usually iodine or bromine). When the tungsten evaporates in a halogen gas, at extremely high temperatures, the tungsten is attracted to the halogen, creating a tungsten-halogen gas, this tungsten-halogen compound is then in turn attracted back to the tungsten of the filament.

http://www.calpoly.edu/~cm/studpage/...logencycle.htm

In simpler words, the tungsten that is being boiled off is continually being replaced. It is because of this that halogen bulbs have to be so hot, not because of presence of any "ballast" gas (which, coincidentally, can be Xenon).

Now - why these pseudo-Xenon bulbs are even hotter than clear halogen bulbs is also easy to understand: they are coated. This means that they trap light of certain wavelengths inside, and the only way for this energy to dissipate is through heat. No magic here, really.

inFiniTE LooP

well, at leat you got a reply, they seem to have just stopped replying to me (i sent them 3 e-mails over the weekend) and i have no idea what they're doing now

rubensans

I think I wont get this bulbs.

Saprissa

What sillyness !!!

DACHIGGA

WEll, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you got MAJORLY RIPPED OFF.

Bulbs like that go for a dollar a piece.

And what, you got like 10 bulbs.

SHould have cost you in total of at most 10 bucks.

Good Luck.

DACHIGGA

The reading lights come out super easily. After you replace the center dome light cover, there are two push clips towards the front windshield insided the center dome light. Then you push them and hte whole light assembly comes off, you just have to replace them from behind.

Good Luck.

lars

Thanks for the correction Vadim.

inFiniTE LooP

thanks for the tip i found the tabs and pulled on them but nothing happened...which part(s) are suppose to come off from this cuz while pulling on them i tried pulling on other parts as well and it didn't seem to make a difference...could you explain this a bit better or post some pictures perhaps? thanks a lot

AaronC

I submitted a dispute with PayPal. That got their attention.