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MBTex 10-15-2007 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Frugal1 (Post 2454787)
For those of you who brought up the E-Class in this thread . . . I've been on the fence for an E so long I have that bar imprint in my thighs permanently! I REALLY like the looks of the new C-class but I had a little trouble with the size. The front seat wasn't that bad . . . but the back seat . . yikes. I'm just under 5'11" and I could feel my hair (and no, I don't have a Lyle Lovett doo) brushing on the headliner. I had a LOT of trouble getting in and out of the back too. I'm not thin but I'm not round either. For those of you about to say "well you won't be riding in the back anyway," it's just a test I do on any vehicle I buy. I want my passengers to be comfortable.

I agree in that the C may be just a bit small, but it is the entry Benz and they have given a bit more room in it then the previous models.

I'd hold off on getting an E right now since MB is coming out with a redesign of that one too in MY2010. I might look into the new E myself when it comes out.

Smorris 10-15-2007 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Frugal1 (Post 2455414)
You HAVE the car with the P2 pkg w/o the changer or you ORDERED the car that way?


We have the car with the P2 package. It was not ordered specific, just off a lot. No changer.

jrd 10-15-2007 01:06 PM

need some help...
 
Does anyone have any recommendations on good dealerships around the Seattle area? The salespeople in MB of Bellevue were not very helpful at all. One guy estimated me $2k down, 39 mos, $770/month lease after tax for Arctic white c300, P2 package, leather, pano, 18" amg. Looks like im gettin jacked...

oblu 10-15-2007 01:46 PM

Barrier tried to insist that I pay .00469 as a MF. Plus full msrp. Plus $975 in shipping to get the car from another dealer since they don't have any cars. Then when I tried to get an E350 under the Sept special, they tried to withhold half of the customer cash.

Talk to Kim McMillen over at Phil Smart. They're not moving numbers as much as I hoped, but they're will to talk and their first offers aren't insulting like Barrier's.

Plus they seem to have a lot more C's than Barrier does.

jrd 10-15-2007 01:55 PM

ya, Barrier charged 1 grand for shipping from another dealer. So oblu, did u close the deal at PhilSmart or Barrier? are we able to back out once we sign the purchase order?

oblu 10-15-2007 02:08 PM

Phil Smart. I got a much better deal out them overall. Still paid msrp, but I got buyrate on the MF (which still sucks) what I wanted for my trade-in and the color and options I wanted without having to pick lesser evils. The car wash just wasn't enough incentive to get raped like that.

I don't if you can back out if you've signed papers or not, but my personal philosophy is that everything is negotiable until I drive away.

jrd 10-15-2007 04:13 PM

Thanks for the info, oblu. Are u leasing or financing? How much did it come down to? What does MF stands for? Mercedes Financial?

Cal 10-15-2007 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by jrd (Post 2456350)
Thanks for the info, oblu. Are u leasing or financing? How much did it come down to? What does MF stands for? Mercedes Financial?

MF = Money Factor.

who8888 10-15-2007 09:54 PM

I got my Palladium Silver + P2 C350 Sport for $750 off MSRP.

RLE 10-15-2007 10:18 PM

How much?
 
C300 Lux

Metallic (Barolo red)
Leather (Beige)
Multimedia
P02

MSRP @$41635

The car came in today so I had a chance to look it over before the 18s (with Bridgestone RE050A) are installed and before new car get-ready.

I had forgotten the wonderful smell of a new leather interior. There is a pretty big look-and-feel difference between Tex and leather.

I noticed a sealed package in the trunk containing the floormats which means that any salesman that is "throwing them in" or getting money for them is full of it.

Even though I pick the car up Wednesday afternoon, I am going down again tomorrow (just in the neighborhood, you understand) to check on the wheels.

rb23lb 10-15-2007 11:48 PM

does the c350 come with any type of floor mat or does it cost extra??
 
does the c350 come with any type of floor mat or does it cost extra??

oblu 10-15-2007 11:59 PM

Come with them.

MBTex 10-16-2007 11:45 AM

Some dealers will throw in some all weather or "AMG" floormats if you push them for it.

Todd_K 10-16-2007 12:49 PM

Been working a deal on a c350 base, retail $37,275, they offered to give it to me at $36,082. The thing is that it has just over 1,000 miles on it. It is almost $1200 off but I don't like the fact that it has that many miles on it.

Any opinions on the price? Should I get more off because of the miles?

Thanks,
Todd

MBTex 10-16-2007 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Todd_K (Post 2457709)
Been working a deal on a c350 base, retail $37,275, they offered to give it to me at $36,082. The thing is that it has just over 1,000 miles on it. It is almost $1200 off but I don't like the fact that it has that many miles on it.

Any opinions on the price? Should I get more off because of the miles?

Thanks,
Todd

Over 1000 miles is a used car....you should get a much bigger discount for that.

Todd_K 10-16-2007 02:26 PM

That's what I was thinking, they told me that was the biggest discount they have given on a c350, but this is also the one with the most miles.

what do you think the car is worth?

Bionic Man 10-17-2007 12:23 AM

My C300 Sport is in
 
When I ordered the car in August, I was told that the car should be at the dealership between Oct 10-20th, and it came in today 10/16.

The car:
C300 Sport with all of its standard features
Black on Black
6-speed manual
No other options

The deal:
$31,975 (MSRP)
$200 licensing and registration
8.375% sales tax NY

The loan:
$0 Down
60 months
3.2% APR
$629.70 Monthly

Insurance:
$656.20 per 6 months

I figured not to lose sleep or drive 100 miles to haggle over a few hundred bucks. No offense but I wanted NY plates without having to change them from some other state.

What I paid for in MSRP I feel I made up for in my loan figures and my insurance premium (I paid $732/six months for my Volkswagen Jetta). I can definitely sleep at night.

MBTex 10-17-2007 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Todd_K (Post 2457829)
That's what I was thinking, they told me that was the biggest discount they have given on a c350, but this is also the one with the most miles.

what do you think the car is worth?

I'd start from a couple thousand below invoice and work from there.

marakbai 10-17-2007 11:04 AM

what's invoice price in Canada? Anyone know for all C's?

Frugal1 10-17-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by MBTex (Post 2459076)
I'd start from a couple thousand below invoice and work from there.

I'm all for getting a good deal but with only 1000 miles, that won't fly, especially on a new release car that is selling well, and one with such a low price point in comparison to the rest of their stuff (that's IF it's "new," read next paragraph). They're not going to go clear down to cost for only 1000 miles. I'd say a fair deal is invoice or $500 below with NO other fees or $1000 below plus dealer prep (again, if it's still legally NEW).

The state matters somewhat too. For example, here in Colorado they changed the law and raised the miles a "new" car can have quite a bit. I don't know the exact number but it is over 1000. Where that matters most is if the car has been titled to anyone, including the dealer, or if it's still legally a new car. If it's been titled to the dealer, no biggie except the warranty started. If it truly is used and was titled to a real customer, then yes, I would AGREE with MBTex and say go for the throat.

CORRECTION: Earlier in this thread I called package 320 the P2 package but 320 is the multimedia package.

MBTex 10-17-2007 12:34 PM

I agree, hence the "work from there" comment. Probably would settle at about where you are saying.

New or used doesn't matter (as far as deal making anyway) as long as the dealer wants to sell the car and can't sell it for more than you are offering.

MBTex 10-17-2007 12:36 PM

If they haven't taken title yet (which they probably haven't) you probably might get a good deal just so they can avoid doing so.

accbenz 10-17-2007 01:41 PM

invoice on these cars is MSRP-destination charge x .93...in other words, 7% off of MSRP-desination charge. As for the C350 w/ 1200 miles on it, assuming it's only been driven as test drives and/or manager demo, yes, it has been used, but no, it is not a technically a USED car, since it has not been titled yet. I worked in sales at 2 Benz dealerships here in Mass for a total of about 4 years, and I recall selling a demo SLK350 right after they had come out, so it was deemed a "hot" commodity, just like the C Classes are now. The car had about 2K on it, and it was a launch edition car...if my memory serves me correctly, we took off $2500. Keep in mind that if you can get an extra $1000 off the car (above and beyond how much you can get off one w/ virtually zero miles on it), simply because it has 1000 miles on it, IMO that's not a bad deal, but ONLY if it's the car you want. Don't settle for a car simply to save $1000.

MBTex 10-17-2007 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by accbenz (Post 2459359)
Don't settle for a car simply to save $1000.

Amen to that...

Frugal1 10-17-2007 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by accbenz (Post 2459359)
Don't settle for a car simply to save $1000.

I'll third that and add to make sure you get the options you wanted too. I got an incredible deal on the VW Touareg V10 I bought last June but notice I'm sniffing around here again because there are a couple of features it lacks and now that the new-ness has worn off, it's starting to bug me a little.


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