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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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I got my car back from a Service A and the dealership installed the new transmission software (used on 2009 models) to solve the lag/hesitation issue for free.
There is a good improvement in acceleration. No noticable lag, and smoother and faster feeling accerlation. I am very happy that the new software has been installed and feel that all 2008 W204 with ATs should have this update done.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by aowhaus
I got my car back from a Service A and the dealership installed the new transmission software (used on 2009 models) to solve the lag/hesitation issue for free.
There is a good improvement in acceleration. No noticable lag, and smoother and faster feeling accerlation. I am very happy that the new software has been installed and feel that all 2008 W204 with ATs should have this update done.
Can you please scan your work order receipt so we may be able to show our dealerships that there actually IS and update available. (Or anyone else who has done this update, "djf1" can you please scan yours?)
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by djf1
So I drop off the car to the dealer for its first service. I note that the box sometimes shifts rough and to check it out. They gave me a B class loaner to drive, so I drive to work, that little thing seems to have a much faster throttle response than my C. Since I bought the car it had this annoying lag, almost like a turbo lag especially during kick down. I have read on the board that other had noticed it and started using the gearbox in manual mode which made things better. At any rate I call the service adviser and I tell her about the comparison and the lag issue. She said they will check it.
I come by to pick up my car at the end of the day and she tells me that they flushed the gearbox and reprogrammed it with a newer version from Mercedes. Driving the car home, was like driving a new car! The lag is GONE and it responds so much better! Could not be happier! So, if you guys experience the same issue, ask your dealer to reprogram your gearbox with the new version...
from the orginal post , i this the guy had it done in richmond retail . i had called them and the service advisor said she dont recall anything like that .and there is no transmission control unit update from MB as of today,
i do want to see the work order receipt for proof.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by maninblack
from the orginal post , i this the guy had it done in richmond retail . i had called them and the service advisor said she dont recall anything like that .and there is no transmission control unit update from MB as of today,
i do want to see the work order receipt for proof.
Strange. But yet thats what I would expect them to say :p I really hope someone posts a workorder up on here.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by micropower99
Strange. But yet thats what I would expect them to say :p I really hope someone posts a workorder up on here.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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read back.. I posted a work order
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by michaeljdunn
read back.. I posted a work order
Oh yea I see it now. I wonder if that's enough to convince the dealership or would they better be convinced with a scanned workorder document? Thanks btw
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by micropower99
Oh yea I see it now. I wonder if that's enough to convince the dealership or would they better be convinced with a scanned workorder document? Thanks btw
I wonder... I'm going to take my car in soon for a software update.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by michaeljdunn
Went to my dealer yesterday and told them about the update for the gearbox and they were scratching there heads in confusion. They took it back and looked at it and i guess there is an update but not for the tranny. Theres an update for the engine. They updated it and its all good now.. So just take it in and tell them there's an update for the engine and to hook it up to the das and update it..
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This is exactly what I asked the dealer to do on my recent Service A. After hooking up the car to the DAS, they confirmed that there is an engine software update but not a transmission software update for my '08. They were kind enough to flash the update as well as re-flash the tranny software to see if the lag would go away. To my amazement, I think it worked! Although there still is a noticeable lag (~0.5sec) on kickdown, it's a lot better than before (~1 to 1.5 sec). I'll see in the coming weeks if this holds up.

For all those wondering, I tested out the lag before and after update with the default throttle control values (i.e I did a throttle control reset). And for those still pining for a scanned work order, you don't need one to bring in as proof. If your dealer won't hook up the car to the DAS, then they lose your business.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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you know, i have a 2009 and while im not getting a hesitation from kickdown (i havent floored it yet, waiting past 1000 miles), there is noticable hesitation in the transmission.

its very reluctant to shift up after i release the gas pedal. i mean its basically holding the gear and doing engine braking. this is really noticeable because i the mph really drop more quickly then they should.

any ideas? im driving in comfort mode.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by joshg1001
you know, i have a 2009 and while im not getting a hesitation from kickdown (i havent floored it yet, waiting past 1000 miles), there is noticable hesitation in the transmission.

its very reluctant to shift down after i release the gas pedal. i mean its basically holding the gear and doing engine braking. this is really noticeable because i the mph really drop more quickly then they should.

any ideas? im driving in comfort mode.
What do you mean, shift DOWN after releasing the gas pedal? That would be a defect. Perhaps you meant shift UP?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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fixed, thanks!
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Yes, i feel a lag while i am already in motion. for example while cruising at 45 mph, if i want to overtake another car, it takes a long time for my car to downshift & pressing on the gas, does not really make the car pick up much speed....
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Push down more, people are afraid to use the gas pedal, the car needs to know you are serious about requesting more power, push it, that's what its for. You'll get a positive response if you ask for it

Same thing happens with braking. You learn on the track, if you want to stop now you have to be serious with the brakes and stay on them.

On the throttle it's the same, you have to get on it if you want the car to respond, just pressing down a little doesn't signal your intentions to the car's programming, press hard, don't be afraid, it's also fun.

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pit-Pony
Push down more, people are afraid to use the gas pedal, the car needs to know you are serious about requesting more power, push it, that's what its for. You'll get a positive response if you ask for it

Same thing happens with braking. You learn on the track, if you want to stop now you have to be serious with the brakes and stay on them.

On the throttle it's the same, you have to get on it if you want the car to respond, just pressing down a little doesn't signal your intentions to the car's programming, press hard, don't be afraid, it's also fun.
That would be fine if the engine didnt have to downshift every time i wanted power... if there was power on hand I wouldnt feel the lag.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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i got the 2009 model and it still has a lag especially when im trying to switch lanes or if i make a turn some idiots keep nailing his car seems like his about to rear end me!!!
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mickeyj86
i got the 2009 model and it still has a lag especially when im trying to switch lanes or if i make a turn some idiots keep nailing his car seems like his about to rear end me!!!
Seems a common situation. You're about ready to go around someone and the guy behind hits it just as you start out ... Why?

Oh, and that guy behind might just be in an oversize pickup with 4x4 and set up 8 inches too high, or more!

I would postulate it's because our cars look small to other folk, and small cars are slow, right? They're not looking at the MB star, they're not thinking that we have a powerful engine or not, they're seeing a small car in their way, and they're bound and determined to get around.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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To the one who said floor it, trust me, I floor it, and the car does nothing for a long time.

These cars are amazing, but this is a weird problem.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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If you want instant power just push and hold the gearshoft knob to the left and the transmission will place you into the optimum power gear for the current speed. The accelerator will now be very responsive. What's the problem?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pit-Pony
If you want instant power just push and hold the gearshoft knob to the left and the transmission will place you into the optimum power gear for the current speed. The accelerator will now be very responsive. What's the problem?
It's another step, or if you're trying to move in a hurry for safety or something, it's something you can forget to do.

Funny thing is, tap up hard on the cruise stalk and it will accelerate you must faster than the pedal. haha.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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it seems like perhaps the car should hold each gear longer? I noticed that it tends to shift very early? im in "S" mode too.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by djf1
Lots of questions....

To recap, my main issue was the lag. This is fixed. my dealer is Mercedes of Richmond in BC Canada. The fix was a freebie. It should be a freebie anyway if you are under warranty. There is a pronounced difference and while the car did not gain a miraculous amount of power, there is no lag. You press the gas pedal and you have immediate reaction just as you should. Before I would be stopped on an intersection and double think of crossing it. It was wait for it, wait for it, go. Now its just go.
So while I dont claim to be an expert of the fix, I'm just communicating what I was told. I was told that there is a software update from Mercedes and that was related to my issue. I also had very few times, this jerk and kick from the gearbox. I have that on my 140K E320 but the box is obviously old. So the dealer on their own accord, flushed the tranny and did the software update.

I'm not surprised that some dealers may be ignorant or pretend to be. I would ask for a test drive on an 09 model to see the difference if they claim otherwise. Again, maybe I'm lucky, but my car is the proof that the lag issue is a software issue, which makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

Hi djf1, can you scan and post the WO so I can show the dealer what to do to solve my lag and jerk on my gear box as well. Thanks!
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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Is there a software update for the 2011 c300 models? Mine seems to have this lag which is super annoying. I'll try a reset and see if it fixes it but I'd like to know if there is an update for my year w204 before I bring it into the dealer...
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Old May 26, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by delirium
it seems like perhaps the car should hold each gear longer? I noticed that it tends to shift very early? im in "S" mode too.
Precisely; I believe they programmed the shifts far too early to create a smoother ride, but allowed for this fabled kickdown which i never experience (noticeably, even when stepping on it) to allow it to tap into power when 'commanded'.

Every car gets reprogrammed by the driver; So each person here could be babying it and feathering the gas in low rpms in C and then trying to floor it. This will make your car overall factor in that type of driving for you and cause overall oddities.

Just like gas mileage. Starting from 0mpg averaged, your gas mileage is terrible. 17 or so. After driving 500 miles, youll see it at 22. If your flooring it most of the time though it might be 19.

SO average together all your featherings of the gas pedal, bouncing back and forth from gas to break (mb brakes auto put more pressure depending on how quickly you removed your foot from the gas pedal) etc etc and your going to get mixed performance results.

I believe this is prevalent especially when switching to/using the tiptronic, but also just in general driving.

One person here said it best: press your pedal where you want it and leave it. Dont think you can baby it in and get good mileage, smoothe acceleration and super fast performance. USually the latter is all you get upon pressing the pedal where its SUPPOSED To be to not "lag"
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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 12:19 PM
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This is what was on mine..

541011 Short Test, Perform 515 WC
540991 Control Unit - Software Install 515 WC
541012 Test Program -After Short Test, Perform 515 WC
I have a 2008 w204 c300 is this update available for these cats? Thank you in advance.
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