New Engines Released
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New Engines Released
So, as we all know by now the new 4 cylinder diesel made its debut in the C class, the best iteration being the C250 CDI PrimeEdition/BlueEfficiency, it is quite a remarkable engine, and the BE treatment really makes the car more efficient (up to 56mpg), while being faster than and having tons more torque than the C280/300 (only the C63 has more torque).
Another model of note is the C350 CGI (Yes, direct injection gasoline) which is also being offered in Europe as a BlueEfficiency model. It is considerably more powerful and more efficient than the C350 that we all know, getting 24% better fuel economy, 20 extra hp and 11 torque.
Another model of note is the C350 CGI (Yes, direct injection gasoline) which is also being offered in Europe as a BlueEfficiency model. It is considerably more powerful and more efficient than the C350 that we all know, getting 24% better fuel economy, 20 extra hp and 11 torque.
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This one caught my interest since I'm about to pull the trigger within the next month or 2 (need an end of March delivery as my current lease is up and the dealer is saying 3 months for delivery).
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
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The C350 BlueTec is a done deal, think the estimates were mid 2009, possibly done as a 2010 model. I would think the C250 BlueTec would be a more useful model and would make up for the cost increases (engine, diesel fuel, extra oil, urea) with added fuel mileage over its gasoline counter part. But there doesn't seem to be any plans in the works to bring that model state side.
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The C350 BlueTec is a done deal, think the estimates were mid 2009, possibly done as a 2010 model. I would think the C250 BlueTec would be a more useful model and would make up for the cost increases (engine, diesel fuel, extra oil, urea) with added fuel mileage over its gasoline counter part. But there doesn't seem to be any plans in the works to bring that model state side.
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So, as we all know by now the new 4 cylinder diesel made its debut in the C class, the best iteration being the C250 CDI PrimeEdition/BlueEfficiency, it is quite a remarkable engine, and the BE treatment really makes the car more efficient (up to 56mpg), while being faster than and having tons more torque than the C280/300 (only the C63 has more torque).
Another model of note is the C350 CGI (Yes, direct injection gasoline) which is also being offered in Europe as a BlueEfficiency model. It is considerably more powerful and more efficient than the C350 that we all know, getting 24% better fuel economy, 20 extra hp and 11 torque.
Another model of note is the C350 CGI (Yes, direct injection gasoline) which is also being offered in Europe as a BlueEfficiency model. It is considerably more powerful and more efficient than the C350 that we all know, getting 24% better fuel economy, 20 extra hp and 11 torque.
I have not found any info when the smaller variants of the new engine would become available for the C-class.
Another one is the 320CDI that should come with 252 HP for the W212 during the second quarter but no news when/if this would appear on the W204. A bit strange too that the current 320CDI comes with the lower 510 Nm torque.
Would be nice to know a bit more about these other engine developments.
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This one caught my interest since I'm about to pull the trigger within the next month or 2 (need an end of March delivery as my current lease is up and the dealer is saying 3 months for delivery).
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
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The C350 BlueTec is a done deal, think the estimates were mid 2009, possibly done as a 2010 model. I would think the C250 BlueTec would be a more useful model and would make up for the cost increases (engine, diesel fuel, extra oil, urea) with added fuel mileage over its gasoline counter part. But there doesn't seem to be any plans in the works to bring that model state side.
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This one caught my interest since I'm about to pull the trigger within the next month or 2 (need an end of March delivery as my current lease is up and the dealer is saying 3 months for delivery).
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
Does anyone have any evidence that the new 350 CGI is going to make an appearance in the 09 model run in Canada? The 20 hp and 11 ft/lb are nice to have (although I would have expected at least hp and tq to compete with the BMW 335) but the 24% better MPG is a real bonus.
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I think the 350CDI will be overkill especially thinking about fuel prices down the track when the Chinese economy fires up again & sucks the planet dry of fossil fuels. The 250CDI will also be lighter in the front end therefore handle better & will have sparkling performance & fuel economy.
I am amazed how well the traction control operates on wet slippery dirt roads . I don't know whether the LSD will be needed?
I am amazed how well the traction control operates on wet slippery dirt roads . I don't know whether the LSD will be needed?
Also, considering the 350CDI will be more efficient than nearly every other car in the US, I am sure the market will tolerate it.
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The new 4 cylinder diesel should come in 3 different variants. Am I right that the mid one, the 220CDI already appears in the GLK 220CDI. It is specced to the same 400 Nm and 170 HP as the current 220CDI but the peak torque at a lot larger rpm range.
I have not found any info when the smaller variants of the new engine would become available for the C-class.
Another one is the 320CDI that should come with 252 HP for the W212 during the second quarter but no news when/if this would appear on the W204. A bit strange too that the current 320CDI comes with the lower 510 Nm torque.
Would be nice to know a bit more about these other engine developments.
I have not found any info when the smaller variants of the new engine would become available for the C-class.
Another one is the 320CDI that should come with 252 HP for the W212 during the second quarter but no news when/if this would appear on the W204. A bit strange too that the current 320CDI comes with the lower 510 Nm torque.
Would be nice to know a bit more about these other engine developments.
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