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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Yeah...I had an '05 Volvo S40 T5 before the C300, and that had heavy steering. When I got my C300, I thought there was something wrong with it at first since it felt SO light. But now that I got used to it, the weighting is just right.
You should feel the steering in my 850.

The W204 steering does feel a bit light for the sport suspension, but Like it overall.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Really is to light. I use regulary two cars, Audi A4 1.9 TDI 130 HP and Mercedes C220 CDI 170 HP and I tend to oversteer when driving the Mercedes.
Also my usual play is flooring the gas (diesel) pedal when exiting a corner when using the Audi, tried with the mercedes and scared all the drivers around (myself also).
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eminnet
Really is to light. I use regulary two cars, Audi A4 1.9 TDI 130 HP and Mercedes C220 CDI 170 HP and I tend to oversteer when driving the Mercedes.
Also my usual play is flooring the gas (diesel) pedal when exiting a corner when using the Audi, tried with the mercedes and scared all the drivers around (myself also).
Really? I tend to find the W204 has alot of understeer.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Really? I tend to find the W204 has alot of understeer.
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The good news is I've fully adjusted to the W204 steering now..I almost like it.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by C300Kid
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The good news is I've fully adjusted to the W204 steering now..I almost like it.
sweet,
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I found that the steering feels a little on-center lightness, but as soon as I turn the wheel it weighted nicely. The suspension firms up automatically during cornering, and it helps a more linear feel on the steering because I wouldn't need to minor-adjust my steering input to compensate body lean.

I actually don't mind the steering feels this way, it makes long distance cruising more relaxing. Afterall, it was one of the reasons my wife and I chose the Mercedes because we hoped for comfort followed by some sportiness, which I think Mercedes balanced them quite nicely.

Just my experience.

With best regards,

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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by C300Kid
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The good news is I've fully adjusted to the W204 steering now..I almost like it.
very ncie, took me sometime to get used to too.

now, how about them seats? oh wait, you came from a mini, nevermind
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
Not that this matters but the 2006+ W203's feel like the W204.
Yes you are right. Mine is a 2005 and the steering is much heavier. When I had 2006 and 2007 C-Class as loaners I noticed the steering was much lighter, so much so that I wondered if something was wrong with mine.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by C300Kid
+1

The good news is I've fully adjusted to the W204 steering now..I almost like it.
I am still trying, still have that fidgety feeling. How many miles have you put on before finding it ok?
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by webada
very ncie, took me sometime to get used to too.

now, how about them seats? oh wait, you came from a mini, nevermind
Well I'm young so I'm all about firm seats. I love the W204 seats. They could have a bit more side support though. The BMW sport seats are better for that reason.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tategoi
I am still trying, still have that fidgety feeling. How many miles have you put on before finding it ok?
I think I have 350-400 miles on the car. I don't LOVE the steering, Ive just kinda gotten used to it.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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i think mb made the steering lighter on purpose. most mb drivers like a more relaxed and effortless drive, so a heavy steering can't provide any of that.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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I drove a buddys 08 328i the other day and was like "DANG this steering is too heavy"...

I guess I've fully adjusted.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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I feel like I should already know this, but is the steering controlled by software? I assume most are these days (engine/road speed) and may be something the dealer or aftermarket can adjust...maybe in conjunction with an engine reflash, etc.??
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Somehow during the test drive I missed the fact that the W204 steering is SUPER light and numb. I only test drive it with the 18" AMG wheels, and mine now has the basic 17" sport wheels. Would the smaller wheels make the steering feel lighter?

I love the car and this isn't that big of a deal, I just prefer the heavier feel of a BMW. Even Toyotas have more steering feel than this Benz.

I plan on throwing some 19" wheels on in the near future...would that make a difference? Any other ways to improve the steering feel?
Yes, I agree, the steering is too light. I am interested in fixes for this as well. I have asked a mechanic whether it is possible to retrofit the speed-sensitive steering option available as part of the dynamic suspension package ($1500). As you can see from the posts here that some people like it. Personally, I am ready to trade in for a 328. If you find yourself driving around turns with white knuckles, you know what I am talking about.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Yes, I agree, the steering is too light. I am interested in fixes for this as well. I have asked a mechanic whether it is possible to retrofit the speed-sensitive steering option available as part of the dynamic suspension package ($1500). As you can see from the posts here that some people like it. Personally, I am ready to trade in for a 328. If you find yourself driving around turns with white knuckles, you know what I am talking about.
Wanted to add that reviews have often pointed out that "Turn-In' is very quick and this might be what you are noticing. It did help for me to properly adjust the tires to about 31PSI up front and 35PSI in the back. Sticker says back tires should be 4 psi higher than the front.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by C300Kid
Is the steering electric? If so, maybe theres a chance they'll update it and we can get our software updated.
I suppose it's possible that one of your steering ropes has jumped off a pulley which would certainly affect feel.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:55 AM
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I suppose it's possible that one of your steering ropes has jumped off a pulley which would certainly affect feel.
No, it is the reciprocating Stevenson reversing link on the steering arm that causes the light feel.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Air pressure affects feel greatly.

I like my fronts around 30 VS 28 spec. I'll go 32 if I know will be on twist mountain roads for few hours with 34 in rears.

Often dealers cars are way overinflated to max pressure ion side walls. Every loaner I've had is overinflated and I feel it right away.

Every time my car comes back from the tire service they are overinflated and every rental car I've ever drivin is over inflated.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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A combination of Sway Bars, Strut Tower Brace, and Adjustable Coilovers should make a dramatic difference in handling and feel.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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gets me from point A-B
I find the steering in w204 VERY SIMILAR to my Lexus IS250's. VERY light in the city and ABSOLUTELY NO FEEL until about 60mph. Basically, it sucks in the city, but once youre on the highway, its great
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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gets me from point A-B
And i think w204s steering is still hydraulic, whereas my IS250's is electric...so i think w204 should feel more natural...IS250s steering kinda feels like stretching a piece of gum/rubber
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hmc
It's definitely heavier than Toyota.

It's lighter than BMW 3 series but similar to 5 series. I feel 3 series is a bit too heavy and Toyota is too light.

Increase air pressure will help on steering wheel feedback. Make sure you have an accurate gague and put front tire at 30+ psi.
+1 AGREE 100%
I was driven Bmw 3 & 5 series
All Japs cars have now electrical steering which is very light & feel like park toys !!
For me the W204 steering is very good/well handling like the Bmw 5

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Steering is like power, everyone relates to them differently. The only way steering can be light or hard is when you compare it to another car. For the W204 the steering is perfect, you may prefer the steering of another vehicle, and that's fine, but that's something you figure out in a test drive
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Old May 14, 2012 | 02:31 AM
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just got my car finally after rebuilding a salvage c300, everything looks great except the part where i try to drive and when turning, my steering wheel want to return back to center every time i turn left or right. it jerk back to center position no matter what. Alignment place thinks car needs to be cleared of codes since esc was on before brought to them. Has anyone ever heard of anything similar??? i doubt the 2010 c300 has auto pilot...LoL
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