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Old 01-02-2009, 03:21 PM
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KEY will not work?????

curious iif anyone has had an issue wth one of their keys, i was able to unlock the car, but once inside the ignition there was no response from the key. My second key worked just fine. Going to dealer tomorrow, just like to ask maybe something i can do first.
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Batteries going? I think I remember reading it takes two lithium button cells. The key for the glove box is used to get to them it it in the manual.
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Even if the fob batterys are dead, you can still start the car with the key. Of course if its keyless go you will need to pull out the button. The car is made so you can still get in and drive the car even if the fob batteries go dead.
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Originally Posted by 451/443=EW
Even if the fob batterys are dead, you can still start the car with the key. Of course if its keyless go you will need to pull out the button. The car is made so you can still get in and drive the car even if the fob batteries go dead.
I thought the security system had to sync codes between the key and the car before starting. Not so???
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I thought the security system had to sync codes between the key and the car before starting. Not so???

Ya this is right, but it has nothing to do with the fob battery. The key is chipped and with out any fob battery it will still start the car. Try it, remove you battery and start your car.
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Originally Posted by 451/443=EW
Ya this is right, but it has nothing to do with the fob battery. The key is chipped and with out any fob battery it will still start the car. Try it, remove you battery and start your car.
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My Dealer told me the same thing, you can still start your engine even if the battery is dead.
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Originally Posted by 451/443=EW
Ya this is right, but it has nothing to do with the fob battery. The key is chipped and with out any fob battery it will still start the car. Try it, remove you battery and start your car.
Good to hear that we don't have to worry about carrying spare batteries around with us...
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Actually the key is not "chipped"!
In order for the key to authenticate it needs to send an RF signal to the car as well as an IR signal through the 'window' on the front of the key. These signals "roll" each time the key is used.
There is an inductance coil in the key as well as in the dash. When you insert the key it receives voltage from the car. This means that even with dead batteries it is powered up just as if it had good batteries (as long as it is inserted).

Before someone asks where the contacts are, go read up on magnetic induction. Your electric toothbrush charges the same way.
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So if the code is rolling with each start, how does the "second" key know what the code is? I am sure the answer is simple, but it seems like rolling codes would give you problems when switching back and forth with keys.
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Originally Posted by acr2001
Your electric toothbrush charges the same way.
I just started my car with my electric toothbrush!

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Originally Posted by Derspeed
I just started my car with my electric toothbrush!
lol...if you can't find your keys just grab your sonicare...

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