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RLE 03-27-2009 09:51 PM

Upgrading to C63 brakes
 
In a previous post (can't find it) I asked if anyone had installed C63 brakes on their non-C63. VV posted the Swedish cost of a front disc at $1400. Interesting but only valid for Sweden. Countries with confiscatory taxes and sky-high import duties skew the numbers too much and in this case the quoted price was nearly 40% higher than the US cost.

Keeping in mind that US MB dealers are independent businessmen and can charge whatever they like except possibly the MB owned (and hated) MB Manhattan who might stick to MBUSA's MSRP list. My Seattle dealer, as one shining example, prices all their parts much higher than suggested retail. That's why they charge $25.83 for a fleece filter. After all, you can't maintain a potentate's lifestyle selling at retail.

So today, stopping in at my dealer to ask if my $12 order had come in, I asked for a price check on a set of C63 brake discs, calipers and pads which are sold separately.

HOLY HEART ATTACK!

Discs, front $1019.20 X2
Discs, rear $292.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 817.60 X2
Caliper, rear $599.20 X2
Pads, front $336.96 per axle
Pads, rear $191.88 per axle

Looks like $5985.84 plus tax minus any discounts.

No thanks. No Brembos, either.

SebringSilver 03-28-2009 12:12 AM

Just curious, but what do you need the C63 brakes for? The brakes on your car should be plenty sufficient, no?

Flame3g 03-28-2009 12:22 AM

this is what i found

Discs, front $626.75 X2
Discs, rear $175.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 501.40 X2
Caliper, rear $368.61 X2
Pads, front $197.80 per axle
Pads, rear $112.70 per axle

$3655.02

RLE 03-28-2009 12:28 AM

Brakes
 

Originally Posted by SebringSilver (Post 3435613)
Just curious, but what do you need the C63 brakes for? The brakes on your car should be plenty sufficient, no?

Absolutely. I don't need them and the OE brakes are more than sufficient for anything. Just an exercise to satisfy my curiousity.

Way too expensive.

RLE 03-28-2009 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Flame3g (Post 3435623)
this is what i found

Discs, front $626.75 X2
Discs, rear $175.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 501.40 X2
Caliper, rear $368.61 X2
Pads, front $197.80 per axle
Pads, rear $112.70 per axle

$3655.02

From who?

Krytech 03-28-2009 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by RLE (Post 3435400)
In a previous post (can't find it) I asked if anyone had installed C63 brakes on their non-C63.

Man, the other day I wasted a good hour of my life searching for that mysterious thread! :wall:

I was hoping they were not going to be that expensive... At that price, I think I'll save my $$$$.

I wonder if we could retrofit our front brakes on the rear and then just upgrade the fronts? Wishful thinking...

08w204 03-28-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by RLE (Post 3435630)
Absolutely. I don't need them and the OE brakes are more than sufficient for anything. Just an exercise to satisfy my curiousity.

Way too expensive.

So how much to put in the 6.2L AMG engine while we're at it?!? I'm just curious about upgrading my C300.... hah!

kit0515 03-28-2009 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by 08w204 (Post 3436683)
So how much to put in the 6.2L AMG engine while we're at it?!? I'm just curious about upgrading my C300.... hah!

i believe the engine cost around 40,000 cdn roughly. and labor from MB will cost, who knows how much.... =)

Ron Jr 03-29-2009 11:56 AM

Didn't AZN say the C63 brakes are made by Brembo or am I mistaken. BTW he has white Brembos on his car and they look fantastic.

albert101 03-29-2009 12:03 PM

Are there any brake upgrade options that would be in between the Brembo BBK/C63 brakes and stock? Like something in between that isn't so expensive that we could use as a possible brake upgrade?

cdye12 03-29-2009 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ron Jr (Post 3437409)
Didn't AZN say the C63 brakes are made by Brembo or am I mistaken. BTW he has white Brembos on his car and they look fantastic.

Yup, as far as I know Brembo makes the C63 brakes as well as Kleeman, those companies just slap their label on top and add a fee. I almost pulled the trigger on the C63 brakes last month but ultimately decided that the car didn't warrant it at this point in time. I tell you what though, if I had a C63...those Evosport 2-piece rotors would be in my sights!

Azn_C300 03-29-2009 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by albert101 (Post 3437422)
Are there any brake upgrade options that would be in between the Brembo BBK/C63 brakes and stock? Like something in between that isn't so expensive that we could use as a possible brake upgrade?

There's nothing between Brembo and AMG (cost wise), but there is a lower level third option available......Rotara. This is the brand that most every other repackaged BBK kits will be using. I believe you'll save maybe a grand or so on Rotara. Biased I may be, but Brembos are still the best.

AkaSigFreak 03-29-2009 02:11 PM

My friend has Rotora's on his Lexus. They are OK. I have seen them on a alot of Japanese cars. I would definitely go with Brembos.
AZN's look amazing.
:y

RLE 03-29-2009 11:24 PM

C63 clone
 

Originally Posted by kit0515 (Post 3436688)
i believe the engine cost around 40,000 cdn roughly. and labor from MB will cost, who knows how much.... =)

You forgot to mention the trans and maybe the diff. Plus the new nose forward of the windshield so as to get the engine in. And the front hubs. And the instruments etc.

Might be cheaper to just buy a C63 and be done with it. My dealer is sick of looking at the two they have out back in the rain and I'll bet discounts would not be unheard of.

C230 Sport Coup 03-31-2009 03:49 AM

Damn,
From 100 a piece for rotors on the C32 C55 to 1000 a rotor on the C63 ?
What are they made of for gods sake?!
And this is considered progress....

cybertechc300 03-31-2009 05:30 AM

i second that mike brembos are the best..but i mean people are right they are a bit pricey but worth the money. yes the stock brakes are good but man night and day difference..i just bought it for show and to have i know my car would not need it since im not going to be going that fast.when i installed mine the difference is remarkable.but rotora is good too..
:)

Originally Posted by Azn_C300 (Post 3437562)
There's nothing between Brembo and AMG (cost wise), but there is a lower level third option available......Rotara. This is the brand that most every other repackaged BBK kits will be using. I believe you'll save maybe a grand or so on Rotara. Biased I may be, but Brembos are still the best.


C230 Sport Coup 03-31-2009 01:26 PM

From those of us with W203's, when the option to upgrade to AMG brakes became available when Evosport bought a large quantity of sets directly from Europe.
Group buy price in 2003 I think it was....
$550 for calipers (4 pot) pads AND rotors, 13.6" drilled and ventilated...
I paid $600, today, you would pay close to $1000.

OK, so I know that has nothing to do with what you guys are up to and the fronts are 6 pot, but the cost of the rotors is ridiculous, they're steel, not ceramic, drilled and ventilated just like mine.
A little bigger though....
Whats the "AMG Compound" brakes available in the option package?

mbbpro 12-22-2009 05:11 PM

Rotora Brakes, what a joke
 

Originally Posted by AkaSigFreak (Post 3437614)
My friend has Rotora's on his Lexus. They are OK. I have seen them on a alot of Japanese cars. I would definitely go with Brembos.
AZN's look amazing.
:y

After seeing Rotora brakes at SEMA we talked to the company, in my opinion a big joke. They are garbage! They cost more or same as Brembo, and no one there has a clue. We install Brembos every week, stay with Brembo, they people there know there stuff!
When we were at SEMA, the reps there had no clue or anything...

e1000 12-22-2009 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup (Post 3441255)
From those of us with W203's, when the option to upgrade to AMG brakes became available when Evosport bought a large quantity of sets directly from Europe.
Group buy price in 2003 I think it was....
$550 for calipers (4 pot) pads AND rotors, 13.6" drilled and ventilated...
I paid $600, today, you would pay close to $1000.

OK, so I know that has nothing to do with what you guys are up to and the fronts are 6 pot, but the cost of the rotors is ridiculous, they're steel, not ceramic, drilled and ventilated just like mine.
A little bigger though....
Whats the "AMG Compound" brakes available in the option package?

Yeah but they are 2-piece floating rotors with aluminum hats. They weigh much less than a solid steel rotor and can handle more punishment.

Azn_C300 12-22-2009 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by mbbpro (Post 3865378)
After seeing Rotora brakes at SEMA we talked to the company, in my opinion a big joke. They are garbage! They cost more or same as Brembo, and no one there has a clue. We install Brembos every week, stay with Brembo, they people there know there stuff!
When we were at SEMA, the reps there had no clue or anything...

Yeah, I agree with that. I spoke with the Rotora reps there too and they were mostly clueless sales people with no clear understanding of the product they offer. Might be just me, but the Brembo Monoblok calipers look much better than the Rotora ones, but you'd really have to see them side by side (or clean them weekly like me to know ever curve and line to them lol) to appreciate the design difference.

amazemeid 12-22-2009 10:11 PM

Disc+caliper+pads <-- are all these the only required parts for complete conversion?

Peabody 12-23-2009 11:13 AM

The stock brakes have unbelievable stopping power from 160 MPH to 60 MPH, I've had to test it. I just don't like how puny the rear ones look. If I could put a second pair of the front calipers and rotors onto the back I would be happy.

joshg1001 12-23-2009 08:28 PM

If i had that money lying around, I would just do the fronts. though the already cross drilled ones on the C sports are good looking enough

bigigg 12-24-2009 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Peabody (Post 3866385)
The stock brakes have unbelievable stopping power from 160 MPH to 60 MPH, I've had to test it. I just don't like how puny the rear ones look. If I could put a second pair of the front calipers and rotors onto the back I would be happy.

i agree! id like to get the same discs and calipers that are on the front, and put in the back..

spoolIT85 12-24-2009 11:56 AM

considering that our cars are way under-powered, i don't understand why spend all that extra money for a BBK?

waste of $$$


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