Go Back  MBWorld.org Forums > Mercedes-Benz Sedans > C-Class (W204)
Upgrading to C63 brakes >

Upgrading to C63 brakes

Notices
C-Class (W204) 2008 - 2014: C180K, C200K, C230, C280, C300, C350, C200CDI, C220CDI, C320CDI

Upgrading to C63 brakes

 
Old 03-27-2009, 09:51 PM
  #1  
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
RLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Upgrading to C63 brakes

In a previous post (can't find it) I asked if anyone had installed C63 brakes on their non-C63. VV posted the Swedish cost of a front disc at $1400. Interesting but only valid for Sweden. Countries with confiscatory taxes and sky-high import duties skew the numbers too much and in this case the quoted price was nearly 40% higher than the US cost.

Keeping in mind that US MB dealers are independent businessmen and can charge whatever they like except possibly the MB owned (and hated) MB Manhattan who might stick to MBUSA's MSRP list. My Seattle dealer, as one shining example, prices all their parts much higher than suggested retail. That's why they charge $25.83 for a fleece filter. After all, you can't maintain a potentate's lifestyle selling at retail.

So today, stopping in at my dealer to ask if my $12 order had come in, I asked for a price check on a set of C63 brake discs, calipers and pads which are sold separately.

HOLY HEART ATTACK!

Discs, front $1019.20 X2
Discs, rear $292.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 817.60 X2
Caliper, rear $599.20 X2
Pads, front $336.96 per axle
Pads, rear $191.88 per axle

Looks like $5985.84 plus tax minus any discounts.

No thanks. No Brembos, either.
RLE is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 12:12 AM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
SebringSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 3,082
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
R8
Just curious, but what do you need the C63 brakes for? The brakes on your car should be plenty sufficient, no?
SebringSilver is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 12:22 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Flame3g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fairfield, Ca
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CLK500 SPORT
this is what i found

Discs, front $626.75 X2
Discs, rear $175.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 501.40 X2
Caliper, rear $368.61 X2
Pads, front $197.80 per axle
Pads, rear $112.70 per axle

$3655.02
Flame3g is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 12:28 AM
  #4  
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
RLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Brakes

Originally Posted by SebringSilver View Post
Just curious, but what do you need the C63 brakes for? The brakes on your car should be plenty sufficient, no?
Absolutely. I don't need them and the OE brakes are more than sufficient for anything. Just an exercise to satisfy my curiousity.

Way too expensive.
RLE is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 12:30 AM
  #5  
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
RLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Originally Posted by Flame3g View Post
this is what i found

Discs, front $626.75 X2
Discs, rear $175.50 X2
Caliper, front $ 501.40 X2
Caliper, rear $368.61 X2
Pads, front $197.80 per axle
Pads, rear $112.70 per axle

$3655.02
From who?
RLE is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 04:20 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Krytech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,423
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2014 Ghibli S Q4 & 2008 C350
Originally Posted by RLE View Post
In a previous post (can't find it) I asked if anyone had installed C63 brakes on their non-C63.
Man, the other day I wasted a good hour of my life searching for that mysterious thread!

I was hoping they were not going to be that expensive... At that price, I think I'll save my $$$$.

I wonder if we could retrofit our front brakes on the rear and then just upgrade the fronts? Wishful thinking...
Krytech is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 08:06 PM
  #7  
Member
 
08w204's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waldfischbach-Bergalben, Germany
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 MB C300 Sport (Mars Red)
Originally Posted by RLE View Post
Absolutely. I don't need them and the OE brakes are more than sufficient for anything. Just an exercise to satisfy my curiousity.

Way too expensive.
So how much to put in the 6.2L AMG engine while we're at it?!? I'm just curious about upgrading my C300.... hah!
08w204 is offline  
Old 03-28-2009, 08:10 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C350 4Matic
Originally Posted by 08w204 View Post
So how much to put in the 6.2L AMG engine while we're at it?!? I'm just curious about upgrading my C300.... hah!
i believe the engine cost around 40,000 cdn roughly. and labor from MB will cost, who knows how much.... =)
kit0515 is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 11:56 AM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Ron Jr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 2,824
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2013 C300 Sport Black Darth V3.0
Didn't AZN say the C63 brakes are made by Brembo or am I mistaken. BTW he has white Brembos on his car and they look fantastic.
Ron Jr is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 12:03 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Philippines/California, USA
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
W204 C280
Are there any brake upgrade options that would be in between the Brembo BBK/C63 brakes and stock? Like something in between that isn't so expensive that we could use as a possible brake upgrade?
albert101 is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 12:48 PM
  #11  
Member
 
cdye12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Posts: 148
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
09 C350
Originally Posted by Ron Jr View Post
Didn't AZN say the C63 brakes are made by Brembo or am I mistaken. BTW he has white Brembos on his car and they look fantastic.
Yup, as far as I know Brembo makes the C63 brakes as well as Kleeman, those companies just slap their label on top and add a fee. I almost pulled the trigger on the C63 brakes last month but ultimately decided that the car didn't warrant it at this point in time. I tell you what though, if I had a C63...those Evosport 2-piece rotors would be in my sights!
cdye12 is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 01:30 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Azn_C300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chino Hills, CA
Posts: 3,808
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Mercedes C300 Sport, BMW 745Li, VW Mk6 Golf TDI
Originally Posted by albert101 View Post
Are there any brake upgrade options that would be in between the Brembo BBK/C63 brakes and stock? Like something in between that isn't so expensive that we could use as a possible brake upgrade?
There's nothing between Brembo and AMG (cost wise), but there is a lower level third option available......Rotara. This is the brand that most every other repackaged BBK kits will be using. I believe you'll save maybe a grand or so on Rotara. Biased I may be, but Brembos are still the best.
Azn_C300 is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 02:11 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
AkaSigFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 3,058
Received 40 Likes on 36 Posts
E350 Sport/ML350RWD
My friend has Rotora's on his Lexus. They are OK. I have seen them on a alot of Japanese cars. I would definitely go with Brembos.
AZN's look amazing.
AkaSigFreak is offline  
Old 03-29-2009, 11:24 PM
  #14  
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
RLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
C63 clone

Originally Posted by kit0515 View Post
i believe the engine cost around 40,000 cdn roughly. and labor from MB will cost, who knows how much.... =)
You forgot to mention the trans and maybe the diff. Plus the new nose forward of the windshield so as to get the engine in. And the front hubs. And the instruments etc.

Might be cheaper to just buy a C63 and be done with it. My dealer is sick of looking at the two they have out back in the rain and I'll bet discounts would not be unheard of.
RLE is offline  
Old 03-31-2009, 03:49 AM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C230 Sport Coup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 6,383
Received 60 Likes on 57 Posts
C230 Sport Coup & 2006 W164 ML350
Damn,
From 100 a piece for rotors on the C32 C55 to 1000 a rotor on the C63 ?
What are they made of for gods sake?!
And this is considered progress....

Last edited by C230 Sport Coup; 03-31-2009 at 03:52 AM.
C230 Sport Coup is offline  
Old 03-31-2009, 05:30 AM
  #16  
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
W204
i second that mike brembos are the best..but i mean people are right they are a bit pricey but worth the money. yes the stock brakes are good but man night and day difference..i just bought it for show and to have i know my car would not need it since im not going to be going that fast.when i installed mine the difference is remarkable.but rotora is good too..

Originally Posted by Azn_C300 View Post
There's nothing between Brembo and AMG (cost wise), but there is a lower level third option available......Rotara. This is the brand that most every other repackaged BBK kits will be using. I believe you'll save maybe a grand or so on Rotara. Biased I may be, but Brembos are still the best.
cybertechc300 is offline  
Old 03-31-2009, 01:26 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C230 Sport Coup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 6,383
Received 60 Likes on 57 Posts
C230 Sport Coup & 2006 W164 ML350
From those of us with W203's, when the option to upgrade to AMG brakes became available when Evosport bought a large quantity of sets directly from Europe.
Group buy price in 2003 I think it was....
$550 for calipers (4 pot) pads AND rotors, 13.6" drilled and ventilated...
I paid $600, today, you would pay close to $1000.

OK, so I know that has nothing to do with what you guys are up to and the fronts are 6 pot, but the cost of the rotors is ridiculous, they're steel, not ceramic, drilled and ventilated just like mine.
A little bigger though....
Whats the "AMG Compound" brakes available in the option package?
C230 Sport Coup is offline  
Old 12-22-2009, 05:11 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
E55
Rotora Brakes, what a joke

Originally Posted by AkaSigFreak View Post
My friend has Rotora's on his Lexus. They are OK. I have seen them on a alot of Japanese cars. I would definitely go with Brembos.
AZN's look amazing.
After seeing Rotora brakes at SEMA we talked to the company, in my opinion a big joke. They are garbage! They cost more or same as Brembo, and no one there has a clue. We install Brembos every week, stay with Brembo, they people there know there stuff!
When we were at SEMA, the reps there had no clue or anything...
mbbpro is offline  
Old 12-22-2009, 05:26 PM
  #19  
Out Of Control!!
 
e1000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: OC
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
a quarter mile at a time
Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup View Post
From those of us with W203's, when the option to upgrade to AMG brakes became available when Evosport bought a large quantity of sets directly from Europe.
Group buy price in 2003 I think it was....
$550 for calipers (4 pot) pads AND rotors, 13.6" drilled and ventilated...
I paid $600, today, you would pay close to $1000.

OK, so I know that has nothing to do with what you guys are up to and the fronts are 6 pot, but the cost of the rotors is ridiculous, they're steel, not ceramic, drilled and ventilated just like mine.
A little bigger though....
Whats the "AMG Compound" brakes available in the option package?
Yeah but they are 2-piece floating rotors with aluminum hats. They weigh much less than a solid steel rotor and can handle more punishment.
e1000 is offline  
Old 12-22-2009, 06:11 PM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Azn_C300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chino Hills, CA
Posts: 3,808
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Mercedes C300 Sport, BMW 745Li, VW Mk6 Golf TDI
Originally Posted by mbbpro View Post
After seeing Rotora brakes at SEMA we talked to the company, in my opinion a big joke. They are garbage! They cost more or same as Brembo, and no one there has a clue. We install Brembos every week, stay with Brembo, they people there know there stuff!
When we were at SEMA, the reps there had no clue or anything...
Yeah, I agree with that. I spoke with the Rotora reps there too and they were mostly clueless sales people with no clear understanding of the product they offer. Might be just me, but the Brembo Monoblok calipers look much better than the Rotora ones, but you'd really have to see them side by side (or clean them weekly like me to know ever curve and line to them lol) to appreciate the design difference.
Azn_C300 is offline  
Old 12-22-2009, 10:11 PM
  #21  
Member
 
amazemeid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Jakarta-Indonesia
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C230 W204 with C63 Kit Package
Disc+caliper+pads <-- are all these the only required parts for complete conversion?
amazemeid is offline  
Old 12-23-2009, 11:13 AM
  #22  
Super Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 964
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
\
The stock brakes have unbelievable stopping power from 160 MPH to 60 MPH, I've had to test it. I just don't like how puny the rear ones look. If I could put a second pair of the front calipers and rotors onto the back I would be happy.
Peabody is offline  
Old 12-23-2009, 08:28 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
joshg1001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 1,904
Likes: 0
Received 39 Likes on 35 Posts
2017 E300
If i had that money lying around, I would just do the fronts. though the already cross drilled ones on the C sports are good looking enough
joshg1001 is offline  
Old 12-24-2009, 11:07 AM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bigigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bergen Co,NJ
Posts: 1,698
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
14' CLS550
Originally Posted by Peabody View Post
The stock brakes have unbelievable stopping power from 160 MPH to 60 MPH, I've had to test it. I just don't like how puny the rear ones look. If I could put a second pair of the front calipers and rotors onto the back I would be happy.
i agree! id like to get the same discs and calipers that are on the front, and put in the back..
bigigg is offline  
Old 12-24-2009, 11:56 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C300 sport 4matic
considering that our cars are way under-powered, i don't understand why spend all that extra money for a BBK?

waste of $$$
spoolIT85 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: Upgrading to C63 brakes


Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: