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If you could change ONE thing about the C-Class what would it be?

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Old 11-28-2009, 01:29 AM
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Glad we see eye to eye regarding the comments on horsepower and torque.

All I was trying to express with that comment was that this car is meant to have a flat broad torque curve with horsepower being a secondary thought. Horsepower without torque is very tiring and most of us wouldn't enjoy that.
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Originally Posted by BenTrovato
Your post is very awkward, you make a lot of good points and you sound like a reasonable individual but when you say you drove a c300 and it was unacceptable and then drove a c350 and decided to get european delivery right away makes zero sense. To go from unacceptable to instant ordering on the difference between a c300 and c350 is a bit sketchy in the way you experience cars.
I thought it was clear I was addressing hp initially and since the principle difference between the C300 and the C350 is the engine I thought it would be clear what made the difference between an unacceptable and an acceptable W204 was the 3.5L engine. Before I went to the dealer I knew I wanted P2 and MM, so again the only effective difference between what I didn't like (C300) and what I did like (C350) was the engine. The smaller US engine was my deal killer.

The first Mercedes I drove was a European W201 back in the mid 80s. I still remember the experience. It took all of about 30 seconds to become familiar with the car (okay, maybe I'm exagerating and it really to all of 60 seconds). I'm reaching for controls in an unfamiliar car and everything was were I naturally tried. The first time I pushed the accellerator the car pulled away smoothly at the speed I expected. The same type of thing happened with the break pedal. That car fit like a custom made glove and it was MB's entry level car. Imagine the higher end cars. I understood why people drove Mercedes and one day I was going to own a Mercedes. The W204 is my first Mercedes. Some day I may get an E or an S, but right now whenever I'm around my C I feel like a teenager.

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more juice to the 350 engine
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In Europe, we dutifully went through the factory break-in period (and then some) before we stretched our car's legs on the Autobahn. At 130 mph (215 kph) nobody was keeping up with us. Also, I later realized that at 4200 rpm 130 mph would NOT exceed the factory break-in recommendations. Try reaching 130 mph in other cars straight off the factory floor and see what happens to your engine warranty!
The break in speech should have been under 4,000 rpm, and not over 100 MPH.

Also, 215 kph will still get you passed on the autobahn. I've been passed while doing 255 kph.
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OK..I'm almost at a full year of ownership so I'm now qualified to state my opinions:

1. The steering..I've grown to accept it, barely, but I still think it sucks. There's no feel to it whatsoever.

2. The seats..after driving 19,000 miles in the first year..I've realized the seats need updating. They're too hard and WAY lacking in side support. I fly around the seat every time i take an aggressive turn..it sucks.

3. The interior..I love the simple design, but the plastics should be a little softer in a car in this class. They're as hard as a rock.

That's really it..everything else is great.
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Originally Posted by Peabody
The break in speech should have been under 4,000 rpm, and not over 100 MPH.

Also, 215 kph will still get you passed on the autobahn. I've been passed while doing 255 kph.
The manual the factory provided said no more than 2/3rds of rev limit (works out to about 4,400 based on 6,700 redline), no hard down-shifts, and vary the speed. If the manual says stay under a specific speed for the first 1,000 miles, I missed it. Anyway, no harm since we stayed under 80 for the first 1,500 miles.

Actually I was surprised somebody didn't rocket by me at 215. There are certainly cars and drivers up it. Incidently, Mercedes are top speed limited based on the factory installed tires. For North American market cars the limit is 215

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