ergon

I hate for this to be my first post and it to be on the down side. Without going into a lot of detail I had to trade my 522 RWHP 03 Cobra for a 2009 C300. I think it pulls very well for what it is but. So I was checking things out here for a little help power wise. I'm 63 and have been a hot-rodder all my life. I thought I could change the air inlet filter, X pipe it, and find someone here in the south to tune it to get the best out of it. It looks like my options are very limited. Ah...change wheels, tint and drive.........is that really it?

Erich

Stevedotmil

Unless you want to spend some loot on some Brabus tuning and cosmetic stuff......pretty much. Where are you in the south? I'm in SC.

ZeroSeVen

Welcome to MBWorld

Have you tried using the search function?

There's quite a few companies who specializes in ECU tune... Several W204 members had theirs done at Powerchip and were satisfied with the results.

X-pipes such as Magnaflow x-pipe has been widely used by forum members... No noticeable gain in performance but most do it for sound

It's going to be close to impossible or not even worth the price tuning a C300 to gain 100 horses more.

Have you consider a C63?

ergon

Chattanooga, TN

Stevedotmil

Got it. Nice scenery there. C63 would be the only way you would be happy coming from the last car you had I imagine. I'm going to just make the suspension and running gear more sporty. The power is plenty for how I'm going to use it. I came from an 08 BMW Z4 Roadster to my C300 and the drive is night and day.

ergon

I must say that I'm surprised by the V6. Any ECU programmers out there? Would a K&N help any at all? If the X pipe just makes it louder without any aide it's out.

tanktube67

Fist at all welcome to MBW
K&N filters will help, no gain on the x-pipe, you should consider a cat back system for gain more HP an ECU Tune

AZN Optics

The most bang for your buck with the m272 engine on a C300 would be a remote turbo to be honest. You're paying $500-1000+ for an ECU tune that'll give you maybe 10hp? These N/A engines just aren't that powerful. Most here instead turn their attention to suspension and turn her into a twistie beast. If you want power, then you should consider a C63, although as a hot rodder, you'd probably be happier with a used w211 E55 which you can eek out lots of power.

MBnewby

My first question is why a C300 if you wanted a fast car?! A 3500 lb car with 220 hp is not going to be fast and a little research would have told you that the engine has almost zero tuning capability...

You should have gone with a C350, the 268hp is just enough to feel "sporty" when you step on it. It certainly makes for fun passing on the highway and quickly jetting down the onramps. 0-60 mph in 5.8 sec. is quick but even the C350 doesn't feel terribly fast.

You probably would have been much more happy with a BMW 335 or Audi S4. I'm curious if you drove either of those before buying the C300?

My next car will probably be a used 335xi or S4 since I'm now a little bored with 268 hp. If you don't mind a used car that is 2-3 years old a 335 can be had for the same price as a base C300...

ergon

Look, like I said I'm 63 and ready to slow down a bit. My Cobra and I retired undefeated, 3 Zo6's, 2 CL's, the new Hemi (not worth the time really), 2 M5's, and 1 911 who just thought he was fast and a bunch of others and me a retired fed still alive. I've done 140 in third gear and still pulling. I got tired of getting tried every time I went to the store for something. The wife and I needed something we both could drive and my 88 year old Mother will be moving in with us. The Cobra didn't have a rear seat and the Explorer is to high to get into for my Mother. I'm not trying to turn the 300 into a speedster just merely warm it up. As a gentleman posted before; K&N and cat-back sounds good, if it's not as load as the Cobra was. Oh, and my wife likes the Benz better......

Who has the best cat-back for these things?

hitokiri89

As far as ecu tuning goes there are a few out there including Powerchip , OE Tuning , Kleeman and a few more . I have the Powerchip tune and I'm very happy with it . You could also look into sprint booster ... Won't make you any faster but from what I have read make the car feel quicker .

ergon

Thanks hitokiri89 for the info. I checked Magnaflow no cat-back. Where do I go?

hitokiri89

Im pretty sure Kleeman does one and maybe Brabus too but expect to pay a pretty penny . You can also do headers , all the big Mercedes names make them .

snarlingchicken

Eisenmann Known for making wonderful high end exhausts for European cars. They make the OEM exhaust for the SL 65 Black series. Look em up.

AZN Optics

+1

Eisenmann is probably #1 followed closely by Akrapovic and then Meisterschaft.

tanktube67

If you are in SoCal check Royal Mufflers for one of a kind system.

W203E35

Welcome

Ahh the Terminator, what a wonderful and bulletproof machine.

For no more than 1,600 you can get your car to around 250 crank. This includes headers and an ECU tune and K&N filters. If you know exhaust work (welding) and have the room to work on your car you can easily get away with 1,000.

For tuning options I would contact OETuning or Eurocharged.

Tuning shouldn't cost no more then 600 dollars max. Sometimes they run specials for 300 dollars.

The headers that I'm talking about are knock off headers from a well known company called Kleemann. The headers are 375 dollars shipped. I've ran them for almost a year without any issues and have suggested them to many members and they are happy with the product as well.

Here are the headers.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-E...Q5fAccessories

I gained 16whp on a dyno dynamics with the OETuning tune. (if you want to see my dyno graph let me know, I'll PM it)

I believe you will gain more with headers since you have a higher compression motor than me. A member who has the same engine model as you gained over 30hp with the header and ECU tune combo.

Again I recommend OETuning or Eurocharged. Contact them as see which one gives you a better deal and who has a dealer near you so you don't have to ship out your ECU and get stranded without a car.

There are many ways to make power with these engines. Don't let people scare you off that you can't make power and that you got the wrong car. For another 1,100 dollars you can most likely make another 20hp crank if you really tried.

Good luck and again welcome.

Edit:
I forgot to say, in your area you guys have 93? Here in California we have crap 91.If you have 93 then they can go a little aggressive on you

ergon

Thanks so very much for the information. Finally the answers I was looking for.

W203E35

FYI a 2.5 liter M272 who invested no more than 1,400 is spanking the hell out of C300s and soon with his new mod he'll be giving the C350 guys a run for their money.

Right now off the top of my head I can think of 7 mods that'll add guaranteed power.

ergon

Send them over please sir.

Richie999

Ergon - welcome to the site!

hotcorner216

FYI a 2.5 liter M272 who invested no more than 1,400 is spanking the hell out of C300s and soon with his new mod he'll be giving the C350 guys a run for their money.

Right now off the top of my head I can think of 7 mods that'll add guaranteed power.










Well im a C350 guy and ive done a custom cold air intake and straight pipe with an X and Im wondering what these other mods are? i want to do headers and tuning as well but what else is there?

hotcorner216

Well im a C350 guy and ive done a custom cold air intake and straight pipe with an X and Im wondering what these other mods are? i want to do headers and tuning as well but what else is there?

ergon

Yeah, that would be interesting to know. He could have pulled the mill and installed ah...........I have NO idea..lol .

I guess I'll just have to have her tuned and do the exhaust, the K&N's are already in. Talked with a tuner who said I should get great results since we run 93 octane here. Now what exhaust without being as load as the V8 was. You could hear me waaaaaaay before you saw me.

Richie999

E - looking forward the the tune results.

So the old Pony car guy in you gave in and added K&Ns?

BTW - your Cobra explanation of removing the air box took me back to my Fox days. First mod, remove the silencer box. Hahahahhahah