Coriborealis

I'm considering buying an 09 C300 4Matic Sport and asked the dealer to swap the rims for the AMG wheels on another car in the lot that is RWD. They told me it was impossible to swap rims between cars because there are sensors on the AMG wheels. What are they talking about? This is total bs right?

Benz-o-matic

Total stealership bull****. If hes referring to the TPMS sensor...all wheels have them. That said the AMG wheels are worth more, and he probably doesn't feel like going through the hassle of changing them.

Coriborealis

The dealer's response to my skepticism:

"The wheels that you want are 255 35 18 and your car has 245 40 18 wheels with AWD. The mismatching of tires won't drive correctly as they are too wide. You are more than welcome to purchase AMG wheels."

I think they're still full of it.

AkaSigFreak

^Exactly. Don't buy the car if you aren't happy.

LandSeaAir

Width has no effect on AWD, In fact standard 17" wheels on US 4MATICs have staggered wheels with different widths front and rear. The only thing that will affect AWD is if you have wheels with different diameter in the front than in the back, like the RWD SLS AMG with 19" in the front and 20" in the rear, that will mess up an AWD system.

Anyway, tell your dealer its the AMGs or no deal, they look awesome, I wish my car had them. This is one reason why I hate dealing with Benz dealers, to them you're already lucky that they took the $200 off the price for you after "checking with their boss." Oh and the AMG rims that you purchase from them for extra happen to work. Typical dealer up to his old tricks.

and just noticed those sizes he gave are wrong, at least for the stock wheels, the stock wheels are 17 inches not 18. Probably thought he would scare you away by shooting you a bunch numbers. I would probably walk away, first he tries to make up some ridiculous excuse about the TPMS and then some crap about the width! I don't know why he's talking about mismatching of tires, they just have to swap the rims and tires as a whole.

Coriborealis

This car is an 09 with 34k, palladium silver, black mb tex, Premium 1, entertainment, and I could have it for about $26k. I can't find an A4, 3-series, G37, or CTS with the same equipment and mileage for that money. Is it a steal?

LandSeaAir

Not a bad price especially considering it has the 100k warranty. I was looking at an 08 4matic P1, nav, 43,000 miles certified for $28k over the summer. So $26k isn't bad for a year newer and 10,000 miles less.

However, the values have dropped because the new 2012s are out, and the dealers know that, if its a Benz dealer, 26k is probably right around where they should be and is no crazy deal.

if you get the AMGs I'd consider it a good deal

tasho3

Purchesed my 2008 C300 4matic Sport last week with 40k miles, Multimedia package, P1, and iPod for $22000

Coriborealis

That sounds like a great deal. This one is CPO and pretty typically equipped, although the nav system seems like a bit of a rarity in these. I'll let you know how I do!

STRES

i just purchased a 2008 c300 with ipod and navi with 46000mi for 20,300
plus 2100 equity on my trade so i came out at 18200 not a bad deal?

eliteskill

I got my Arctic White CPO 09 C350 Sport P1, MM , Ipod integration, with 50k miles for $26k

So if you can score the wheels its a good deal in my opinion.

Ben'sBenz

I originally had 17's on my Lux model and changed tires, TPMS, and AMG wheels and it works perfectly. I bought them used from another forum member. They are totally pulling your chain. Good luck!

Illusive

Their excuse is crap. Like others have said, it's the diameter that will matter as it will affect your speedometer reading. The width will not have any issues unless you go too wide and the wheel/tire rubs against the fender or suspension.

As for the TPMS comment, that's incorrect as well. Depending on where you are, up here, W204's have a passive TPMS which measures the rotational speed of each wheel. If one is rotating faster than the others, then it will tell you to check your tire pressures. Works quite well actually, and it doesn't require TPMS sensors in each wheel. However, in the US, I think it is mandatory to have a TPMS sensor in each wheel, so they are just giving you an excuse.

However, your comment on the tire width sounds like you are trying to swap rims with a C350 or a C63. Dealer will definitely push back on that as they do not want to swap a set of C300's with a C350 or C63 as that would detract from the value of the other vehicle. Ordering a similar set is quite expensive, so it's definitely a tough sell for them.

jimmythegreek

well they may be right guys. The OP didnt say they were AMGs from a w204, he just said AMGs from another RWD. If they are off a non w204 they would only work from a newer E class, otherwise teh offset isnt right. And if they are not W204 wheels the sensors may be the other frewquency that alot of MBs use, thats what they prob meant by sensors. U said they were 255-35-18, that IS NOT the size for 18" w204 AMGs, so based on that the dealer is RIGHT, this time only LOL.......

AND.....if you have 245-40-18 on this car, then U have the AMGs already, there is not an 18" non amg OEM wheel for a w204.....I just re-read your post

Illusive

Actually the 2012 C350's come with 255/35/18 in the back now (at least up here in Canada according to the Merc website). You are right though, they did not make any non-AMG 18" wheel options on the pre-facelift W204, so you'd already have the OEM AMG wheels on the car (split 5 spokes).