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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Anyone know anything about the Lemon law?
As far as I know, if the newly purchased car has been in for service for the same problem for more than 4 occasions or more than a total 30 business days, then it qualifies as a lemon. Am I wrong? Or is there more to it?
I heard through a few people that there are lawyers that handle these cases free of charge (since the factory reimburses them) and it shouldn't be too hard. Any info?
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mfkl2
Anyone know anything about the Lemon law?
As far as I know, if the newly purchased car has been in for service for the same problem for more than 4 occasions or more than a total 30 business days, then it qualifies as a lemon. Am I wrong? Or is there more to it?
I heard through a few people that there are lawyers that handle these cases free of charge (since the factory reimburses them) and it shouldn't be too hard. Any info?
Lemon laws vary by state. You should research the issue for your location.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mfkl2
Anyone know anything about the Lemon law?
As far as I know, if the newly purchased car has been in for service for the same problem for more than 4 occasions or more than a total 30 business days, then it qualifies as a lemon. Am I wrong? Or is there more to it?
I heard through a few people that there are lawyers that handle these cases free of charge (since the factory reimburses them) and it shouldn't be too hard. Any info?
You do not need a lawyer. If your state is like my state, the state agency that mediates these claims will be glad to help you. Very glad, since these claims are what keep their offices open.

I know two people who had their cars bought back. One was a Toyota Supra which was consuming too much oil. The female owner simply built a case using documents from her Toyota store's service department. The Toyota rep who showed up at the hearing never knew what hit him.

The second was a GMC Diesel Suburban that repeatedly stopped running for no good reason and the dealers (GMC and Chevrolet) couldn't fix it. After the accursed thing was towed out of the driveway for the 13th time, they decided it was time to go after GM. When the owner arrived at the hearing, there was no one from GM present. Then the phone rang and it was a lady lawyer calling from GM headquarters whose only statement was "Our position is that this case does not meet the Washington State Lemon Law requirements". The hearing examiner asked if she had anything else to add and when she said she did not, the examiner turned to the car owner and said "You win."

So you can see that if you have all of your paperwork, organized, and present your case well, and you know that the Lemon Law covers it, you are home free.

In the two cases described, the arrogance of the manufacturers was enough to annoy the examiner which helped the owners' cases.

And, I know for a fact that MB has lost a lot of these cases in the past and the very mention of the words Lemon Law frightens them. I think the loss of the class action suit over the early ML engine sludging problem (which MB lost) taught them that they were not as bombproof as they thought.

Good luck.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 02:45 AM
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Well mine may not be that big of a problem but still enough to send my car in 7 times over the past 8 month since Ive recieved the car. I will look into Nevada lemon law and hopefully get back what I deserve.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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In Nevada, the lemon law is quite simple:

(a) The same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer, or its agent or authorized dealer within the time the express warranty is in effect or within 1 year following the date the motor vehicle is delivered to the original buyer, whichever occurs earlier, but the nonconformity continues to exist; or

(b) The motor vehicle is out of service for repairs for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days within the time the express warranty is in effect or within 1 year following the date the motor vehicle is delivered to the original buyer, whichever occurs earlier, except that if the necessary repairs cannot be made for reasons which are beyond the control of the manufacturer or its agent or authorized dealer, the number of days required to give rise to the presumption must be appropriately extended.

If you have one of those 2 cases, the dealer is bound by law to replace the car with a new one of the same value, even if it means giving you a newer car than yours.

If you are going to claim this to the dealer, just state to them that this is Nevada law 597.630
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The above info is correct, but in addition, from what I've since found, the remedy is either vehicle replacement or refund of all monies spent in the purchase, minus a usage adjustment prior to the first occurrence of the failure which qualifies it as a "lemon". Essentially, you don't get the first three years for free if the four qualifying failures all happen in year four of the warranty.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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The above info is correct, but in addition, from what I've since found, the remedy is either vehicle replacement or refund of all monies spent in the purchase, minus a usage adjustment prior to the first occurrence of the failure which qualifies it as a "lemon". Essentially, you don't get the first three years for free if the four qualifying failures all happen in year four of the warranty.
In Washington, you also get your unused license and insurance fees for the year of winning the dispute.

And I think in the case of the Suburban, he also got a partial refund of added equipment. Just think, if one has maxed out several credit cards when adding all those "Mods" to a C300 Sport, this may be one way of getting out from under.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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Fortunately I found a lawyer that can help me at no charge but he's out till Tuesday for labor day so I guess I'm gonna give this a shot. I have all my service receipts so he said that should be all I need to get them. Thanks alot guys!!
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Fortunately I found a lawyer that can help me at no charge but he's out till Tuesday for labor day so I guess I'm gonna give this a shot. I have all my service receipts so he said that should be all I need to get them. Thanks alot guys!!
A lawyer working for no fee? You had better get that in writing.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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A lawyer working for no fee? You had better get that in writing.
well according to him, its almost 99% chance that benz will give in. so whatever fees he charges, he gets from benz not from my pocket. win-win situation
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