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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 07:31 PM
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I want to sell you something, I truly do but your car seems to be operating normally. These fluctuations are normal, additionally if you are stopped in traffic and turn on the heat please keep in mind that you are literally extracting the heat from the coolant to warm the cabin and this is why the temp drops slightly. This is similar to the approach you would take if your car was overheating and you needed to limp it home, you would turn on the heat using your heater core to pull heat out of the coolant and into the cabin.

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Hello Kyle from FCPEuro, i did not expect someone from the company to respond to me lol. I greatly appreciate your input but the problem has persisted and maybe even gotten worse, i understand your description of heat and the coolant system. But now i have noticed that at cold start, i go to to turn on the heat, and the coolant temperature will stay at 0 for a while, it will take way TOO long to reach operating temperature with the heat on, without the heat it still suffers from random temperature drops while the engine is still warming up, but it gets to operating temperature in a timely manner. I'm taking the car to get diagnosed this upcoming Friday. If the problem is indeed the thermostat, i will see what their parts/labor cost is and if needed, i will be purchasing one of your thermostats!
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 09:08 PM
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With similar problem and symptom it took the temp gauge needle 25/30 min of hwy driving in the morning in GA winter to get to the 90 degree mark with the auto heat on.
After new t-stat and coolant it's operating seems to be all good.
I know exactly what Kyle is saying.
I had been having this since last winter but last month it has gotten worse.
So, I think your t-stat is on it's way out.
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by meazz1
With similar problem and symptom it took the temp gauge needle 25/30 min of hwy driving in the morning in GA winter to get to the 90 degree mark with the auto heat on.
After new t-stat and coolant it's operating seems to be all good.
I know exactly what Kyle is saying.
I had been having this since last winter but last month it has gotten worse.
So, I think your t-stat is on it's way out.
Thank you for your experience. You've been driving with your faulty thermostat for a whole year? Whats the reasoning you haven't changed/replaced it, and have you ever gotten a check engine light? I live in NY so the winters here aren't a joke either. Do you think i should continue driving with this thermostat until i get a check engine light?
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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Pretty much every modern MB has an electronically controlled/assisted thermostat that can and will vary coolant temperatures. These aren't thermostats of old that have a fixed temperature so small fluctuations from ~85-90 C are to be expected depending on the then current conditions. Below is an article that explains these thermostats and the benefits vs the old fixed thermostats.

The temp fluctuations you posted are in line with what I witnessed in my '09 C300 and my '11 E350.

Electronically controlled thermostat
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by merc5555
Thank you for your experience. You've been driving with your faulty thermostat for a whole year? Whats the reasoning you haven't changed/replaced it, and have you ever gotten a check engine light? I live in NY so the winters here aren't a joke either. Do you think i should continue driving with this thermostat until i get a check engine light?
In winter I only experienced these symptom, The t-stat could have been perfectly working. I don't know I just replaced it. It was time for a coolant flash anyway
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Guys, if your engine is taking for ever to warm up, change your thermostats. It's very bad running a car cold for a long time, specially during winter since the fuel mixture is staying rich, not only hurting your fuel economy but worse, washing the oil on the cylinder walls and diluting the oil, resulting in premature wear.
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pezzy669
Pretty much every modern MB has an electronically controlled/assisted thermostat that can and will vary coolant temperatures. These aren't thermostats of old that have a fixed temperature so small fluctuations from ~85-90 C are to be expected depending on the then current conditions. Below is an article that explains these thermostats and the benefits vs the old fixed thermostats.

The temp fluctuations you posted are in line with what I witnessed in my '09 C300 and my '11 E350.

Electronically controlled thermostat

Informative link, thanks for sharing.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 01:15 AM
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Hello everyone, my car finally popped a P0128 code Coolant Thermostat (coolant temp below thermostat regulating temperature), proving what most of us suspected. Ordered a new thermostat, plan on getting the work done next week.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 01:20 AM
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Old Jan 26, 2019 | 09:11 PM
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Fun fact: The coolant gauge lies to you, often.

Temperature fluctuations are very normal, especially in the cold
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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similar except wide range of fluctuation from 80-100 C. and gauge reads differently from OBD scanner, scanner always reads lower.
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