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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 05:08 PM
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Hello everyone,

I've been dealing with an ongoing issue with my 200 Kompressor M271 (163hp) for the past seven years, and despite spending what feels like thousands of dollars, I still haven't pinpointed the problem. The car has a rough idle and frequently shuts off one cylinder. It drives fine, but as soon as I put it in neutral (it's a manual), one of the cylinders stops working, and the engine runs poorly on just three cylinders. Turning the car off and back on seems to temporarily fix the issue.I've replaced the spark plugs at least five times, installed new coils multiple times, swapped out the MAP sensor, MAF sensor, and cleaned the throttle body. A mechanic checked the live stats and confirmed the throttle body is working normally. I've also replaced both O2 sensors, which was quite expensive, but the problem persists.

I've consulted at least 7-8 different mechanics, but none have found the root cause, often suggesting numerous potential reasons.I'm starting to suspect it might be the crankshaft or camshaft, though I haven't replaced them yet. The car starts without hesitation, so I'm unsure. If anyone has any recommendations or advice, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 08:08 PM
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Have you done a compression check?

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How do you know one of the cylinder stops working and which cylinder is it?
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pwrfmind
Hello everyone,

I've been dealing with an ongoing issue with my 200 Kompressor M271 (163hp) for the past seven years, and despite spending what feels like thousands of dollars, I still haven't pinpointed the problem. The car has a rough idle and frequently shuts off one cylinder. It drives fine, but as soon as I put it in neutral (it's a manual), one of the cylinders stops working, and the engine runs poorly on just three cylinders. Turning the car off and back on seems to temporarily fix the issue.I've replaced the spark plugs at least five times, installed new coils multiple times, swapped out the MAP sensor, MAF sensor, and cleaned the throttle body. A mechanic checked the live stats and confirmed the throttle body is working normally. I've also replaced both O2 sensors, which was quite expensive, but the problem persists.

I've consulted at least 7-8 different mechanics, but none have found the root cause, often suggesting numerous potential reasons.I'm starting to suspect it might be the crankshaft or camshaft, though I haven't replaced them yet. The car starts without hesitation, so I'm unsure. If anyone has any recommendations or advice, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Hey @Pwrfmind , are you getting a CEL or any codes ? I am not sure if the spark plugs need to be clocked a certain way on the m271. I replaced mine on the m271evo and never had an issue.

i would do a compression test on each cylinder as previously suggested by @TimC300. That will narrow down to the exact cylinder and you can see how they all compare in compression.


Have you double checked all your hoses, vacuum lines, electrical connections etc??


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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 10:54 AM
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So, it was storing faulty codes for misfire in cylinders 2 and 4. Then I bought new coils and changed them. After driving a couple of miles, while waiting at a traffic light, the car went into limp mode. I know it's working on 3 cylinders because it's very rough and the whole car is vibrating. However, after turning it off and starting the car again, it's fine until the next traffic light or stop. Went to my mechanic and we saw that it's giving cylinder 4 misfire again.
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TimC300
Have you done a compression check?
Yes, compression is good on all cylinders.
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by antboii
Hey @Pwrfmind , are you getting a CEL or any codes ? I am not sure if the spark plugs need to be clocked a certain way on the m271. I replaced mine on the m271evo and never had an issue.

i would do a compression test on each cylinder as previously suggested by @TimC300. That will narrow down to the exact cylinder and you can see how they all compare in compression.


Have you double checked all your hoses, vacuum lines, electrical connections etc??


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So, I checked everything I could and did not find any vacuum leakage. Somewhere I read that there are three vacuum hoses that are prone to breaking. One is under the airbox, and the other two are next to the supercharger. I can change the one under the airbox, but I can't remove the supercharger myself. Hopefully, someone will know if that is necessary based on the symptoms listed above.
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