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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 01:02 AM
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Hello everyone, this might be a dumb question, but it's there any special procedures when switching from using premium 91 or 93 octane to e85? I have the 2013 C300 4matic Luxury. It says in multiple places I can use either or. So just wondering if I can just switch the next time I fuel up? Or do I need to do something else first? Thanks in advance for any info!
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 02:12 AM
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I’ve switched over for kicks and I didn’t need to do anything special other than waiting until the tank was near empty. Mileage sucks asssssss
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 08:53 AM
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Yeah you dont really need to do anything if its flex fuel it has a fuel sensor. You will not see much if any change unless its a boosted engine that could make use of the higher octane. I dont beat on my car much I have a 14 3.5 v6 engine in my c300 and i only use regular fuel no premium and never had a issue. Its really not worth it.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 09:54 AM
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Gasahol remains another of the big cons foisted upon consumers by the EPA. The corn farmers are the only beneficiaries.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 10:09 AM
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Gasahol remains another of the big cons foisted upon consumers by the EPA. The corn farmers are the only beneficiaries.
Not 100% true. It is used extensively in the racing world and all over the streets on high compression high power engines. It does require different tuning to be effective and its hella cheap compared to high octane gasoline.
I have a Chevelle with a 600 CID BBC that makes 1000HP on pump E85. I will never switch that car back to gasoline.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 11:46 AM
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Not 100% true. It is used extensively in the racing world and all over the streets on high compression high power engines. It does require different tuning to be effective and its hella cheap compared to high octane gasoline.
I have a Chevelle with a 600 CID BBC that makes 1000HP on pump E85. I will never switch that car back to gasoline.
Doesn't sound like the stuff I fill up with down at the Speedway station.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 12:26 PM
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Doesn't sound like the stuff I fill up with down at the Speedway station.
Its exactly the same stuff. I buy it from the pump at speedway and family express locally. E85 is great for making power in high compression or power boosted engines. It can be from E60-E90 and still makes the same power because ethanol dont really detonate like gasoline does.

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Old Jan 25, 2026 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RobertR728
Its exactly the same stuff. I buy it from the pump at speedway and family express locally. E85 is great for making power in high compression or power boosted engines. It can be from E60-E90 and still makes the same power because ethanol dont really detonate like gasoline does.
True. But what most people experience is lower fuel mileage because their grocery haulers don’t have the mods to compensate for the lower energy content and take advantage of the extremely high apparent octane rating.
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Yes absolutely it doesn't make much sense to run E85 if your not make a lot of power. And yes the mileage sucks as it seems to drop up to 30% in some cars. I dont get very good mileage in my race car
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I’ll bet those grocery trips are quick, though!😉
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I’ll bet those grocery trips are quick, though!😉
Yes 8.8 @ 156 is the best time to date
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Old Jan 25, 2026 | 10:49 AM
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... and its hella cheap compared to high octane gasoline...
That’s not been my experience when calculating the cost per mile. Do the math. You will spend more on E85 than 93 octane premium to go the same distance.
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That’s not been my experience when calculating the cost per mile. Do the math. You will spend more on E85 than 93 octane premium to go the same distance.
Estimates vary and depend on the vehicle, but E85 can compromise your mpg by 5 to 30%. And, of course, not every vehicle is compatible with E85. I've noticed a slight drop in mpg with just the 10% alcohol blend. Some of the nearby fuel stops carry clear (no alcohol) gas, but only in 87 octane.
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Old Jan 25, 2026 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GTIBlack
That’s not been my experience when calculating the cost per mile. Do the math. You will spend more on E85 than 93 octane premium to go the same distance.
I think @RobertR728 may be referring to high octane racing gasoline like Sunoco 110. It’s not in the pumps even at Sun because it isn’t street legal and can run $6+ per gallon. It’s straight “iso-octane” (2,2,4 trimethyl pentane) plus exotic anti knock alkenes. I don’t think that car in his pic is street legal anywhere on this planet.
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Old Jan 25, 2026 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Odd Piggy
I think @RobertR728 may be referring to high octane racing gasoline like Sunoco 110. It’s not in the pumps even at Sun because it isn’t street legal and can run $6+ per gallon. It’s straight “iso-octane” (2,2,4 trimethyl pentane) plus exotic anti knock alkenes. I don’t think that car in his pic is street legal anywhere on this planet.
Yes I was talking about the cost compared to high octane race fuel its not even close. If I had to run race fuel I would need 114 octane and that is currently 105$ for 5 gallons. compared to 15$ for E85.

Another fun fact about E85 is that more is not better in this case. Ethanol will not ignite from just a spark in the cylinder. So that's the reason for the 85/15 blend. The spark ignites the 15% gasoline that is approx 87 octane then the gasoline ignition ignites the Ethanol for this reason E85 takes a bit more time to ignite and is pretty much detonation proof but higher Ethanol content would be hard on the ignition system to ignite it. I run a 300 fogger nitrous system, normally on a gasoline engine you would pull some timing while spraying NOS but its not necessary with E85. My ignition timing is locked at 36deg and I dont pull any timing when using NOS which would be dangerous on a gas engine. So it can depend on the tune but most of us are running hotter spark plugs and not pulling any timing as the retard is essentially built into the fuel.

My car dont have turn signals or windshield wipers but I drive it all over my town. Another advantage to E85 is the engine runs way cooler because of all the ethanol.
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Estimates vary and depend on the vehicle, but E85 can compromise your mpg by 5 to 30%. And, of course, not every vehicle is compatible with E85. I've noticed a slight drop in mpg with just the 10% alcohol blend. Some of the nearby fuel stops carry clear (no alcohol) gas, but only in 87 octane.
My 2014 C350 Sport is Flex Fuel equipped and I do suffer about 30% less mpg than regular premium fuel. Just about everyplace here uses E10, but I may look for alcohol-free gas (just like my beer) and see if it makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by GTIBlack
My 2014 C350 Sport is Flex Fuel equipped and I do suffer about 30% less mpg than regular premium fuel. Just about everyplace here uses E10, but I may look for alcohol-free gas (just like my beer) and see if it makes a difference.
No need to test the beer -- it is different.
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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 07:42 AM
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Here in Brazil, the W204 must be fueled only with gasoline; there is no flex-fuel or diesel version. Unfortunately, the regular gasoline here is E30, and the premium gasoline is E25, which probably makes fuel consumption higher than in the US.
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That’s not been my experience when calculating the cost per mile. Do the math. You will spend more on E85 than 93 octane premium to go the same distance.
Where I live e85 is about half the price of 93 or 91
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Check your mileage with E85 (if you have the Flex Fuel option Code 929). If your mileage decrease is more than the price decrease, E85 is more expensive to use.
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