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Old 06-18-2016, 09:29 PM
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Ordered as follows:
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  • Cranberry red leather
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  • 19-inch 5 twin-spoke silver/black alloy wheels
Almost all of the other options are included as standard in Australia, except the performance package, which I didn't choose as I prefer the standard seats. Would have chosen the performance exhaust, but couldn't be ordered separately.
I guess that the MSRP for your order was about A$130k.

I ordered iridium silver with black leather & the air balance package.
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I guess that the MSRP for your order was about A$130k.

I ordered iridium silver with black leather & the air balance package.
No it was around A$110k MSRP. Quote including dealer delivery and all taxes etc was around A$118k, negotiated down to A$114k
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I think when I get my new c43 I will use my old badges from my c450 to throw every one off...
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i finally test drove a C450 today (i ordered a C43 coupe, but test drove the sedan).

compared to the 4 cylinders in my bmw, my god, this car is so much more composed. it sounds luxury. and unless 4 years have done that much damage to my F30, it feels like the car just doesnt let in as much wind noise . only took it up to about70mph in sport + on a side road near the dealership.... but it feels much more solid and german.

had a B8 a4 previous to my F30 bmw. and the B8 felt as buttoned down, but the C450 felt al ot more neutral and balanced. and both the a4 and c450 felt a lot more "german" as far as that whole bank vault feel.
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Originally Posted by stixpicks
No it was around A$110k MSRP. Quote including dealer delivery and all taxes etc was around A$118k, negotiated down to A$114k
My quote here in Melbourne from the ordering guide including all dealer charges & taxes was $120k negotiated down to $115k, so discounting appears similar.
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My quote here in Melbourne from the ordering guide including all dealer charges & taxes was $120k negotiated down to $115k, so discounting appears similar.
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i finally test drove a C450 today (i ordered a C43 coupe, but test drove the sedan).

compared to the 4 cylinders in my bmw, my god, this car is so much more composed. it sounds luxury. and unless 4 years have done that much damage to my F30, it feels like the car just doesnt let in as much wind noise . only took it up to about70mph in sport + on a side road near the dealership.... but it feels much more solid and german.

had a B8 a4 previous to my F30 bmw. and the B8 felt as buttoned down, but the C450 felt al ot more neutral and balanced. and both the a4 and c450 felt a lot more "german" as far as that whole bank vault feel.
Test drove a brand new f30 last year, the wind noise was the worst I've ever heard in a car. At first I thought all the windows were not up all the way, but the salesman assured me it was just wind noise lol.
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Originally Posted by stixpicks
No it was around A$110k MSRP. Quote including dealer delivery and all taxes etc was around A$118k, negotiated down to A$114k
I guess we lucky people in North America should not complain about prices!! I'm just curious, how much of that $118 is taxes, and what are car insurance rates like?
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I guess we lucky people in North America should not complain about prices!! I'm just curious, how much of that $118 is taxes, and what are car insurance rates like?
Cost breakdown of the A$114k purchase price is as follows:
  • Vehicle, Options and Dealer Delivery - A$92k
  • Fees and Taxes - A$22k

Not sure of car insurance rates, not yet available.
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Originally Posted by autopal
I guess we lucky people in North America should not complain about prices!! I'm just curious, how much of that $118 is taxes, and what are car insurance rates like?
I expect it to be A$1k for me, which includes a maximum no-claim bonus & 20% loyalty & multiple policies discounts.

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What's the signature in the passengers side front windshield about?
Make sure you pay top dollar at dealership to get that signature back if you ever need a replacement.
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Originally Posted by autopal
I guess we lucky people in North America should not complain about prices!! I'm just curious, how much of that $118 is taxes, and what are car insurance rates like?
to be fair due to the collapse in commodity prices like copper, i think the aussie dollar is only like .7 american. still a lot though but it was at parity 4-5 years back
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Test drove a brand new f30 last year, the wind noise was the worst I've ever heard in a car. At first I thought all the windows were not up all the way, but the salesman assured me it was just wind noise lol.
bmw has gone way too cheap to make extra $. the interior now is no where near the B9 a4 or the w205. and the mexican built G series 3 series i'm guessing is yet another way for them to maximize profit and do nothing to make the car better.
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I guess we lucky people in North America should not complain about prices!! I'm just curious, how much of that $118 is taxes, and what are car insurance rates like?
Perhaps someone in North America can enlighten me. I'e seen a couple of comments whereby discount off of a new C43 varies (duh.....obviously). Mercedes dealer invoices versus MSRP is just about 7.0 % looking at current rates last year and this year. . How close has anyone got to this (excluding other type of discounts - such as company, fleet etc)? I'm sure since its new - dealers are looking to keep it as close as possible to MSRP....but not the way I want to approach it.
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Originally Posted by infinitiS5
Perhaps someone in North America can enlighten me. I'e seen a couple of comments whereby discount off of a new C43 varies (duh.....obviously). Mercedes dealer invoices versus MSRP is just about 7.0 % looking at current rates last year and this year. . How close has anyone got to this (excluding other type of discounts - such as company, fleet etc)? I'm sure since its new - dealers are looking to keep it as close as possible to MSRP....but not the way I want to approach it.
10% off (not including Fleet), but as mentioned previously, I am the beneficiary of a "one off" situation IMO...would be tough for others to replicate this.
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10% off (not including Fleet), but as mentioned previously, I am the beneficiary of a "one off" situation IMO...would be tough for others to replicate this.
Thanks. I had you in mind having previously seen your 10%!. I wish I was that lucky. Curious to see what others who are not as fortunate as you think. Appreciate the feedback.
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I got 14.5% off MSRP. Pick her up Monday. Stay tuned for pics!
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I got 14.5% off MSRP. Pick her up Monday. Stay tuned for pics!
Thanks - I'm talking about a C43 Coupe. What are you picking up Monday (and Good Luck!)
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Thanks - I'm talking about a C43 Coupe. What are you picking up Monday (and Good Luck!)
C450 Sedan. Thank you!

C43 I could have gotten 10% off if I wanted to order one. However, I am leasing, and C450 has an awesome money factor right now, along with $1800 extra (from Benz) which is about $50/month just in that.

So the difference in a guestimate of a lease was like $200 a month difference going off standard MF for c43, no $1800 cash back, and a lower residual just because it says AMG.
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Originally Posted by InTheBenz0
C450 Sedan. Thank you!

C43 I could have gotten 10% off if I wanted to order one. However, I am leasing, and C450 has an awesome money factor right now, along with $1800 extra (from Benz) which is about $50/month just in that.

So the difference in a guestimate of a lease was like $200 a month difference going off standard MF for c43, no $1800 cash back, and a lower residual just because it says AMG.
The C43 residual is expected to be lower than a one-and-done C450?
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Originally Posted by InTheBenz0
C450 Sedan. Thank you!

C43 I could have gotten 10% off if I wanted to order one. However, I am leasing, and C450 has an awesome money factor right now, along with $1800 extra (from Benz) which is about $50/month just in that.

So the difference in a guestimate of a lease was like $200 a month difference going off standard MF for c43, no $1800 cash back, and a lower residual just because it says AMG.
Knowing the dealer invoice is 7% below MSRP how do you figure the dealer would go BELOW his invoice? (unless you too are the beneficiary of a "one off" IMO similar to inhartwetrust!) Also would like a guesstimate on residual.


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