How poor is the ride on a 2015 c300, and how defective are they likely to be?
02-21-2017, 06:25 PM
#52
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quite a few c400 4matic, non air, on mbusa's cpo search. Some have cpo some dont. Airmatic would be a wishlist item. If i can get a decent color ext/int and options, and find a c400 4matic; ill take that.... only thing is i dont see many that arent on 19s...
i checked and it uses the same sport suspension as the c300, but the c450 has the amg c43/63 suspension. I believe too harsh
i checked and it uses the same sport suspension as the c300, but the c450 has the amg c43/63 suspension. I believe too harsh
02-21-2017, 10:46 PM
#53
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For me the Air was a must-have. (I had to do a build and wait three months). All the 400's are 4matic, but the Sport suspension is pretty stiff. If you went to an 18" wheel and conventional tires on a non AirMatic car I think you'd be okay. 19" run flats are like hockey pucks. Agree the AMG cars are too firm regardless of setting or wheel size. In every comparison test of the C63 the ride quality is its Achilles Heel. Other cars in the class manage to offer a comfortable ride and not sacrifice handling.
02-23-2017, 02:54 AM
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2015 C400
Will my 987 Porsche OZ wheels/tires fit my new C400
Looking to buy a certified tomorrow.
The car is a 2015, but has 1200 miles as it has only been used as a loaner. The car has absolutely every possible option for the new C-Class. Original sticker was a touch over $64K. It seems like a great deal.
I have a 2006 987 Boxster S which is my summer track/fun car. The Benz is really for my daily, especially with our harsh Colorado winters.
I have a gorgeous set of 18" Oz ultralegerra wheels with brand new, never even mounted Bridgestone RE11 extreme summer performance tires. I think I've read that they will fit the C400 but wanted to be sure so thought I'd ask.
The Benz looks to have the same hole pattern. The OZ wheels I have are 8jx18 front and 9jx18 rear. The tires are 235/40/R18 front and 265/40/R18 rear.
Appreciate any replies.
I've read some disturbing posts about reliability of these cars, mostly the C300. I have 5 years unlimited mile warranty and nearly 3 years of maintenance so if things go wrong I could get fixed. But I'd rather not have a car that's poorly built and full of issues. That's not what I want to drop nearly $50K on after tax/on road costs. There's plenty of options (BMW, Audi etc) for that money so appreciate candid replies.
Thanks.
The car is a 2015, but has 1200 miles as it has only been used as a loaner. The car has absolutely every possible option for the new C-Class. Original sticker was a touch over $64K. It seems like a great deal.
I have a 2006 987 Boxster S which is my summer track/fun car. The Benz is really for my daily, especially with our harsh Colorado winters.
I have a gorgeous set of 18" Oz ultralegerra wheels with brand new, never even mounted Bridgestone RE11 extreme summer performance tires. I think I've read that they will fit the C400 but wanted to be sure so thought I'd ask.
The Benz looks to have the same hole pattern. The OZ wheels I have are 8jx18 front and 9jx18 rear. The tires are 235/40/R18 front and 265/40/R18 rear.
Appreciate any replies.
I've read some disturbing posts about reliability of these cars, mostly the C300. I have 5 years unlimited mile warranty and nearly 3 years of maintenance so if things go wrong I could get fixed. But I'd rather not have a car that's poorly built and full of issues. That's not what I want to drop nearly $50K on after tax/on road costs. There's plenty of options (BMW, Audi etc) for that money so appreciate candid replies.
Thanks.
02-24-2017, 10:37 AM
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Looking to buy a certified tomorrow.
The car is a 2015, but has 1200 miles as it has only been used as a loaner. The car has absolutely every possible option for the new C-Class. Original sticker was a touch over $64K. It seems like a great deal.
I've read some disturbing posts about reliability of these cars, mostly the C300. There's plenty of options (BMW, Audi etc) for that money so appreciate candid replies.
Thanks.
The car is a 2015, but has 1200 miles as it has only been used as a loaner. The car has absolutely every possible option for the new C-Class. Original sticker was a touch over $64K. It seems like a great deal.
I've read some disturbing posts about reliability of these cars, mostly the C300. There's plenty of options (BMW, Audi etc) for that money so appreciate candid replies.
Thanks.
02-24-2017, 06:27 PM
#58
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test drove the sport vs comfort, my personal preference was the comfort (base) suspension. honestly think that the sport suspension only gives you the look rather than anything else.
02-24-2017, 09:24 PM
#59
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steering ratio, suspension, seats and steering wheel all add up to a monster of a handler. the looks of the sport pack is a bonus though some people only CHOOSE it for the look aspect.
lux or normal do feel better on a straight line and over cracks. at least lux/sport comes with the mbtex dash without getting leather package. base u haveto pay for that.
the more I drive this car, the more the suspension is settling.
lux or normal do feel better on a straight line and over cracks. at least lux/sport comes with the mbtex dash without getting leather package. base u haveto pay for that.
the more I drive this car, the more the suspension is settling.
02-24-2017, 10:10 PM
#60
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AirMatic on a Sports package car gives you the best of both worlds. Comfort ride height when you want a relaxed cruiser, Sport lowered ride height when you feel like tossing it around. Sport + when you feel the need to be punished.
My favorite combo of settings: Engine: Sport, Suspension: Comfort, Steering: Comfort. Then you get a smooth, comfortable ride and always plenty of go when you get into the throttle.
My favorite combo of settings: Engine: Sport, Suspension: Comfort, Steering: Comfort. Then you get a smooth, comfortable ride and always plenty of go when you get into the throttle.
02-25-2017, 11:52 AM
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2015 C400
I've decided against that car.
I'm coming from the Porsche/M car side of the fence and it's just too sedate for me. I really don't like airmatic. Not for me, I still need confidence in a car that I can throw around mountain twisties.
The main dealbreaker for me was the fact that the C400 and C450 AMG are essentially MB new model mistakes.
C400 replaced in 2016 by the C450, the C450 now replaced by the C43 AMG. It's clear they realized that both of those cars fell between the base C300 and the C63, but neither of them hit the mark for the competition they were designed for - new S4/BMW M Sport (not M4/M3 as they're competing in the C63 space).
The C43 sedan and coupe variants are the right choices in that space with far better AMG tuned suspension and 4matic systems, plus they have the new much quicker) responsive 9 speed automatic.
Reviews of the C450 AMG essentially all mirrored the same thing. The clunky 7 speed automatic transmission let the car down.
I believe any C400 coupes that do happen to surface should be avoided for the same reason. With the C300 coupe coming, the C400 coupe will fall into that weird in between space and will likely be discontinued if it hasn't been already.
There will be good deals on all C400/450 cars because they are a marketing mistake and most buyers don't want a car that's likely not going to hold its value, unless you plan on keeping it long term. Also for those less concerned with the ride and handing performance the C43 model offers, they will be a good value for those looking for a bit more power than the 4 banger C300, which seem to be FLOODING the market!!
I'm shopping for the first good match C43 that comes along, that's the right car for my personal needs and I'm sure there will be a few surfacing by summer/fall for current used C450 money.
I'm coming from the Porsche/M car side of the fence and it's just too sedate for me. I really don't like airmatic. Not for me, I still need confidence in a car that I can throw around mountain twisties.
The main dealbreaker for me was the fact that the C400 and C450 AMG are essentially MB new model mistakes.
C400 replaced in 2016 by the C450, the C450 now replaced by the C43 AMG. It's clear they realized that both of those cars fell between the base C300 and the C63, but neither of them hit the mark for the competition they were designed for - new S4/BMW M Sport (not M4/M3 as they're competing in the C63 space).
The C43 sedan and coupe variants are the right choices in that space with far better AMG tuned suspension and 4matic systems, plus they have the new much quicker) responsive 9 speed automatic.
Reviews of the C450 AMG essentially all mirrored the same thing. The clunky 7 speed automatic transmission let the car down.
I believe any C400 coupes that do happen to surface should be avoided for the same reason. With the C300 coupe coming, the C400 coupe will fall into that weird in between space and will likely be discontinued if it hasn't been already.
There will be good deals on all C400/450 cars because they are a marketing mistake and most buyers don't want a car that's likely not going to hold its value, unless you plan on keeping it long term. Also for those less concerned with the ride and handing performance the C43 model offers, they will be a good value for those looking for a bit more power than the 4 banger C300, which seem to be FLOODING the market!!
I'm shopping for the first good match C43 that comes along, that's the right car for my personal needs and I'm sure there will be a few surfacing by summer/fall for current used C450 money.
Last edited by Globe Spy; 02-25-2017 at 11:55 AM.
02-25-2017, 09:00 PM
#63
1. The C450 and C43 have the same suspension
2. You'll be hard pressed to find a difference in the 4matic.
Eye rolls all around.
2. You'll be hard pressed to find a difference in the 4matic.
Eye rolls all around.
I've decided against that car.
I'm coming from the Porsche/M car side of the fence and it's just too sedate for me. I really don't like airmatic. Not for me, I still need confidence in a car that I can throw around mountain twisties.
The main dealbreaker for me was the fact that the C400 and C450 AMG are essentially MB new model mistakes.
C400 replaced in 2016 by the C450, the C450 now replaced by the C43 AMG. It's clear they realized that both of those cars fell between the base C300 and the C63, but neither of them hit the mark for the competition they were designed for - new S4/BMW M Sport (not M4/M3 as they're competing in the C63 space).
The C43 sedan and coupe variants are the right choices in that space with far better AMG tuned suspension and 4matic systems, plus they have the new much quicker) responsive 9 speed automatic.
Reviews of the C450 AMG essentially all mirrored the same thing. The clunky 7 speed automatic transmission let the car down.
I believe any C400 coupes that do happen to surface should be avoided for the same reason. With the C300 coupe coming, the C400 coupe will fall into that weird in between space and will likely be discontinued if it hasn't been already.
There will be good deals on all C400/450 cars because they are a marketing mistake and most buyers don't want a car that's likely not going to hold its value, unless you plan on keeping it long term. Also for those less concerned with the ride and handing performance the C43 model offers, they will be a good value for those looking for a bit more power than the 4 banger C300, which seem to be FLOODING the market!!
I'm shopping for the first good match C43 that comes along, that's the right car for my personal needs and I'm sure there will be a few surfacing by summer/fall for current used C450 money.
I'm coming from the Porsche/M car side of the fence and it's just too sedate for me. I really don't like airmatic. Not for me, I still need confidence in a car that I can throw around mountain twisties.
The main dealbreaker for me was the fact that the C400 and C450 AMG are essentially MB new model mistakes.
C400 replaced in 2016 by the C450, the C450 now replaced by the C43 AMG. It's clear they realized that both of those cars fell between the base C300 and the C63, but neither of them hit the mark for the competition they were designed for - new S4/BMW M Sport (not M4/M3 as they're competing in the C63 space).
The C43 sedan and coupe variants are the right choices in that space with far better AMG tuned suspension and 4matic systems, plus they have the new much quicker) responsive 9 speed automatic.
Reviews of the C450 AMG essentially all mirrored the same thing. The clunky 7 speed automatic transmission let the car down.
I believe any C400 coupes that do happen to surface should be avoided for the same reason. With the C300 coupe coming, the C400 coupe will fall into that weird in between space and will likely be discontinued if it hasn't been already.
There will be good deals on all C400/450 cars because they are a marketing mistake and most buyers don't want a car that's likely not going to hold its value, unless you plan on keeping it long term. Also for those less concerned with the ride and handing performance the C43 model offers, they will be a good value for those looking for a bit more power than the 4 banger C300, which seem to be FLOODING the market!!
I'm shopping for the first good match C43 that comes along, that's the right car for my personal needs and I'm sure there will be a few surfacing by summer/fall for current used C450 money.
07-17-2018, 07:35 PM
#65
I also have a C300 Sport Package "AMG" package. 19" run flats. Love the car, but VERY bumpy and loud and jarring over any road that is not super smooth. Not a big fan of it. I was thinking of replacing the runflats with non-runflats to see if helps, but the 19" rims don't leave too much room for sidewall, so might not make a difference in I change out the tires
