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Old 02-27-2017, 06:01 AM
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yup, bone stock
Very nice, thanks...
Old 02-27-2017, 09:26 AM
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Nice... Sounds like you will have lots of fun eventhough the C400 is still over 300hp base.
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Waynez- how has the tune been since you have had the car back?. any reports?
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What would be the potential gains on a c450, I assume the tune would be more aggressive? Does it keep the crackle from the exhaust?

Definitely interested, especially at that price.
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We are awaiting info on both!

So, you make a provisional 10!

Dinan, are you there?

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Just taking a wild guess, the 450 would probably be very similar in gains like the 400 . For a 300 retail price those figures are quite nice IMO
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Need to provide 91 octane dyno figures for C450/C43. That's what almost everybody west of the Mississippi has to run.
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Nice and like how it's conservative
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Originally Posted by Robvoip
What would be the potential gains on a c450, I assume the tune would be more aggressive? Does it keep the crackle from the exhaust?

Definitely interested, especially at that price.
Gains themsleves should be near identical to the C400 as the unit is adding a set adjustment above stock on an identical motor. The only difference is the baseline is higher on the 450/C43. The test C43 should be getting the unit soon though so we ma be jumping the gun a bit. Lets see how that plays out first. Also couldnt comment on the crackle as it wasn't something we were paying attention to to be honest.

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Need to provide 91 octane dyno figures for C450/C43. That's what almost everybody west of the Mississippi has to run.
You can always add in a can of torco or blend a bit of race gas. =)

In general terms going from 93 to 91 will result in a 15-20% loss in advertised gains. Not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things.
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Originally Posted by DinanCars
Gains themsleves should be near identical to the C400 as the unit is adding a set adjustment above stock on an identical motor. The only difference is the baseline is higher on the 450/C43. The test C43 should be getting the unit soon though so we ma be jumping the gun a bit. Lets see how that plays out first. Also couldnt comment on the crackle as it wasn't something we were paying attention to to be honest.



You can always add in a can of torco or blend a bit of race gas. =)

In general terms going from 93 to 91 will result in a 15-20% loss in advertised gains. Not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things.
If one turns the chip off remotely, shouldn't the default crackle in S+ return?
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If one turns the chip off remotely, shouldn't the default crackle in S+ return?
Crackles shouldnt be gone to begin with a piggyback approach to be honest. Programmed overruns should be unaffected since that base programming isnt altered. Again though, its not something we were paying attention to so maybe Wayne can chime in on that front.
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isn't 310 hp at the wheel quite high for a stock c400?
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Originally Posted by DinanCars
Crackles shouldnt be gone to begin with a piggyback approach to be honest. Programmed overruns should be unaffected since that base programming isnt altered. Again though, its not something we were paying attention to so maybe Wayne can chime in on that front.
I don't think the c400 has it.
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Originally Posted by CFG
I don't think the c400 has it.
Ok well, Sterz has a C43 and should be reporting back soon I would imagine so he can chime in on it then.
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Great! Puhlez get this thing out-dough waiting.

I'd pay double for an engine warranty.

Maybe this could be an option?

Thanks
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Anyone on the fence about this thing should definitely jump in. Especially if they can do a group buy on it.

I'm running the JB1 which should be similar to the Dinantronics. I'd jump on this one if I didn't have the JB1. I would probably pick this one due to the 1 plug vs 3 plugs and Bluetooth map change vs having to hook up my computer to it. Bonus that it's also cheaper than the JB1.

Anyways the reason for my post is that I recently changed it to map 2 which should be similar to the RACE+ setting on the Dinantronics and it actually made the pops a touch louder.
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Originally Posted by CFG
Great! Puhlez get this thing out-dough waiting.

I'd pay double for an engine warranty.

Maybe this could be an option?

Thanks
The SPORT units will not have the factory matching warranty. We are using them more as an bed to see if the market is receptive to some degree to Dinan tuning in general. If it takes off like it has in the MINI/AUDI/VW realm then we will invest the time, cost, effort into developing a warrantied version like we are doing in those spaces that mimicks the BMW mold. If that does occur then the warrantied tuner will most likely be in the ~$1500 price range.

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Anyone on the fence about this thing should definitely jump in. Especially if they can do a group buy on it.

I'm running the JB1 which should be similar to the Dinantronics. I'd jump on this one if I didn't have the JB1. I would probably pick this one due to the 1 plug vs 3 plugs and Bluetooth map change vs having to hook up my computer to it. Bonus that it's also cheaper than the JB1.

Anyways the reason for my post is that I recently changed it to map 2 which should be similar to the RACE+ setting on the Dinantronics and it actually made the pops a touch louder.
Appreciate the feedback.
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Well, I'd consider a wArranty at that price. I believe there is a relatively good market for safe, easy and moderate tunes, rather than full bore ones, especially from DINAN.

Come on Mercedes drivers, let's show them we will buy!
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Ok well, Sterz has a C43 and should be reporting back soon I would imagine so he can chime in on it then.
Following the UPS tracker daily, unit should be here tomorrow. I should have some feedback by Friday, 2 days of driving.
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OK, folks, Golan at Auto Talent is your man! He is taking orders right now for the c400/c450/c43 chip.

Go get em, I just did!
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OK, folks, Golan at Auto Talent is your man! He is taking orders right now for the c400/c450/c43 chip.

Go get em, I just did!
Do they have an online store or do we need to order old-school over the phone?
The website does not link to any online order fulfillment.

I'm not a big fan of hanging out on hold to buy stuff.
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Do they have an online store or do we need to order old-school over the phone?
The website does not link to any online order fulfillment.

I'm not a big fan of hanging out on hold to buy stuff.

Our website is in the middle of being redone. Taking a lot longer than we anticipated unfortunately. Feel free to email me at Golan@AutoTalent.com and I can assist further.
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A few questions, if you don't mind (sorry if these have been answered, but nothing came up in a search):

How easy/difficult are these to install on a C450? I looked at the install instructions for the 2.0T version but how does the 3.0TT compare? Are the connections buried under other components?

Also, can the dealer tell if one of these units has been previously installed, if it is removed before taking the car in for service?

Interesting that a warrantied version, if there ever is one, might be 5x the price. That implies some risk in these "unwarrantied" units. What is the risk of engine damage from running one of these (assuming street, not track use)?
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Our website is in the middle of being redone. Taking a lot longer than we anticipated unfortunately. Feel free to email me at Golan@AutoTalent.com and I can assist further.
Hello Golan i just email you about a dinan chip for my c450, thanks
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Originally Posted by RTC450
Hello Golan i just email you about a dinan chip for my c450, thanks
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