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Old 09-04-2017, 06:20 PM
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Navigation Upgrade Breaks Street Sign Assist???

Ok folks... car has been at the dealer for 10+ days now, and they have no ETA. About 30 days after getting the Navigation update to 2017-2018 data, I noticed that the speed limits and warnings were no longer displayed in the HUD, or anywhere else for that matter.

Has anyone else noticed this issue after getting the recent OEM navigation update???

They have no idea what's wrong....
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Did you turn it on in the menu?
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
Did you turn it on in the menu?
Yup.
Everything is on that should be, but there's no longer an option for it in the menu...
Even dealer is perplexed.
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
Ok folks... car has been at the dealer for 10+ days now, and they have no ETA. About 30 days after getting the Navigation update to 2017-2018 data, I noticed that the speed limits and warnings were no longer displayed in the HUD, or anywhere else for that matter.

Has anyone else noticed this issue after getting the recent OEM navigation update???

They have no idea what's wrong....
Did they only update the maps, or also the software?
I looks like they switched off the traffic sign assistant in the configuration of the car.
I recently had both updates (msps and software) but did not notice this. I will have a closer look tomorrow.
I am in Europe btw.
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Originally Posted by GerritKw
Did they only update the maps, or also the software?
I looks like they switched off the traffic sign assistant in the configuration of the car.
I recently had both updates (msps and software) but did not notice this. I will have a closer look tomorrow.
I am in Europe btw.
I forget where the option is to confirm...
Can you remind me?
They apparently tested the update on another vehicle and it broke that car, as well.
TPSS case was opened as a result.
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Originally Posted by GerritKw
Did they only update the maps, or also the software?
I looks like they switched off the traffic sign assistant in the configuration of the car.
I recently had both updates (msps and software) but did not notice this. I will have a closer look tomorrow.
I am in Europe btw.
Nevermind, I found it.
Option is on.
I'm going to check my wife's car to see as she has the same version.
This may be just a north America issue.....
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
Nevermind, I found it.
Option is on.
I'm going to check my wife's car to see as she has the same version.
This may be just a north America issue.....
I know that the speeds that are displayed are also coming from the maps. So the speed that is displayed initially is coming from the map. As soon as you pass a speed limit sign that will take priority over the maps.
Might be that your map data is missing the speeds.
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Originally Posted by GerritKw
I know that the speeds that are displayed are also coming from the maps. So the speed that is displayed initially is coming from the map. As soon as you pass a speed limit sign that will take priority over the maps.
Might be that your map data is missing the speeds.
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The dealer does, in fact, believe it is some issue with the upgrade itself.
Whether the upgrade actually turned off the option, etc., is still unknown.
I don't believe the street sign assist actually reads street signs, but anything's possible.
This is definitely an annoying issue, but doesn't take away too much from the enjoyment of driving....
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
The dealer does, in fact, believe it is some issue with the upgrade itself.
Whether the upgrade actually turned off the option, etc., is still unknown.
I don't believe the street sign assist actually reads street signs, but anything's possible.
This is definitely an annoying issue, but doesn't take away too much from the enjoyment of driving....
Here in Europe the traffic sign assist reads the actual speed signs but also signs like forbidden to overtake and shows them in the display.
so the system is capable of doing that.
However in Europe most signs (round red ring and a number inside) are standard in most countries.
In the US each state has its own type of speed signs.
Maybe that is the reason it can't recognize the signs and relies totally on the map data.

I verified my system and with V10 2017/2018 i still have a functional system.

I know that Daimler, BMW and the Volkswagen group have taken over Here Navigation and it might be that they are slowly migrating to this system with the current issue as a result.

Let's hope they can solve it quickly.
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Is sign assist available in the US?
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Is sign assist available in the US?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by GerritKw
Here in Europe the traffic sign assist reads the actual speed signs but also signs like forbidden to overtake and shows them in the display.
so the system is capable of doing that.
However in Europe most signs (round red ring and a number inside) are standard in most countries.
In the US each state has its own type of speed signs.
Maybe that is the reason it can't recognize the signs and relies totally on the map data.

I verified my system and with V10 2017/2018 i still have a functional system.

I know that Daimler, BMW and the Volkswagen group have taken over Here Navigation and it might be that they are slowly migrating to this system with the current issue as a result.

Let's hope they can solve it quickly.
Thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
Yes.
Thanks. So Sign assist will be available with a 2015 Navi map software update? My 2015's navi has never been updated but will be soon before the free 3 yr map update period.
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Originally Posted by miketc
Thanks. So Sign assist will be available with a 2015 Navi map software update? My 2015's navi has never been updated but will be soon before the free 3 yr map update period.
I don't think a navigation update is going to turn on that feature. I believe it's part of a premium package available sometime after the mid model update.
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I just got my car back from the shop and the traffic lights are not on my maps anymore either.
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Originally Posted by bigbot45
I just got my car back from the shop and the traffic lights are not on my maps anymore either.
Mercedes f'd this up badly....
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Ok I put in a route and the navigation now showed the stoplights along every intersection along the route. It doesn't show them when there is no route.

Due to other issues, my car also got a new COMAND update while at the dealership (it now displays the time!)...I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
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Originally Posted by bigbot45
Ok I put in a route and the navigation now showed the stoplights along every intersection along the route. It doesn't show them when there is no route.

Due to other issues, my car also got a new COMAND update while at the dealership (it now displays the time!)...I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
Mine shows no signs or speed limits regardless of whether nav is actively providing a route.

It never provided stop signs or anything like that, anyway though.
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
Mine shows no signs or speed limits regardless of whether nav is actively providing a route.

It never provided stop signs or anything like that, anyway though.
My 2015 never showed speed limits. I did have one update, which didn't affect that at all. Total PITA, not having that information... something virtually every other navigation system shows.
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Originally Posted by StanNH
My 2015 never showed speed limits. I did have one update, which didn't affect that at all. Total PITA, not having that information... something virtually every other navigation system shows.
Exactly.

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