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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
If you confirm the pressure is good with a guage and that it indeed is stuck open you are good to unplug. Reason why I still recommend unplugging because you never know if it has a mind of its own and start operating again later on and worse jammed closed, destroying your engine.
Makes sense and how do I unplug it since it is it inside?

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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacobariel
Makes sense and how do I unplug it since it is it inside?
The connector on the outside, more on it here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...solenoids.html
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 05:58 PM
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Looks something like this, depending on what engine you have, the connector may be in a different spot: https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7e35d7da2a.jpg
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:01 PM
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Source of image from that same thread that was linked.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:02 PM
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Basically what you unplug outside is the ECU connector to the oil pump solenoid, basically cutting communication and power.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Basically what you unplug outside is the ECU connector to the oil pump solenoid, basically cutting communication and power.
And disconnecting is the best and safe aproach whether it is stuck open or closed?
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacobariel
And disconnecting is the best and safe aproach whether it is stuck open or closed?
If it is stuck, you better take apart the engine and replace the solenoid, if confirmed it is open, yes safest way is to disconnect it.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
If it is stuck, you better take apart the engine and replace the solenoid, if confirmed it is open, yes safest way is to disconnect it.
yes, open per the scan.



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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacobariel
yes, open per the scan.
You can't trust that result though hence why I recommend doing a manual oil pressure check if oil pressure is good, you can unplug it, if it isn't you need to take apart the engine and fix the solenoid. Point is, you can unplug the solenoid and it will still show the exact message, the solenoid can fail and still show the message. Open circuit means there is no connection and communication from the ECU or the solenoid. Think of a wire that was connected and you sliced it in half, that is a opened circuit, has nothing to do with the oil pump solenoid in open or closed state.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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Here is forum member JettaRed's thread on how to check it on a C 63 S: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...asurement.html
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:36 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 08:38 PM
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Oh, you have a 253.948, so a GLC, 300, so with the M274 engine. Since you have a four cylinder engine, once you confirm oil pressure is good, it might not be that difficult to get it unplugged from the top even. There is lots of room to work with compared to a V6 or V6 turbo for example.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
You can't trust that result though hence why I recommend doing a manual oil pressure check if oil pressure is good, you can unplug it, if it isn't you need to take apart the engine and fix the solenoid. Point is, you can unplug the solenoid and it will still show the exact message, the solenoid can fail and still show the message. Open circuit means there is no connection and communication from the ECU or the solenoid. Think of a wire that was connected and you sliced it in half, that is a opened circuit, has nothing to do with the oil pump solenoid in open or closed state.
If I'm understanding correctly if the oil pressure is good the solenoid should be good and therefore disconnect to avoid a closed circuit but if the solenoid is bad replace the solenoid?
With good oil pressure disconnecting will avoid a problem if it ever gets stuck close, yes?
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Originally Posted by Jacobariel
If I'm understanding correctly if the oil pressure is good the solenoid should be good and therefore disconnect to avoid a closed circuit but if the solenoid is bad replace the solenoid?
With good oil pressure disconnecting will avoid a problem if it ever gets stuck close, yes?
Yes, you got it the solenoid is activated (to close) when ECU calls for it and will open in default state like when engine is off when there is no communication. The worry is, it could get jammed by debris. Hence why it is recommended to unplug it. So if oil pressure good, recommend just unplugging it and if you are worried about a check engine light, you can plug a dummy solenoid OUTSIDE the engine and zip tie it somewhere safe.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 07:17 AM
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The solenoid is spring loaded and if there is electricity, and ECU calls for it, it will put tension on the spring to close. Once power is cut, it will release the tension and the solenoid is in the default opened state as a result, again, debris in oil could jam it.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Yes, you got it the solenoid is activated (to close) when ECU calls for it and will open in default state like when engine is off when there is no communication. The worry is, it could get jammed by debris. Hence why it is recommended to unplug it. So if oil pressure good, recommend just unplugging it and if you are worried about a check engine light, you can plug a dummy solenoid OUTSIDE the engine and zip tie it somewhere safe.
So once it it comfirmed that the oil pressure is good and you disconnect. How does the oil lubricate the engine safely since there is no more power/signal to the solenoid?
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 10:47 AM
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So once it it comfirmed that the oil pressure is good and you disconnect. How does the oil lubricate the engine safely since there is no more power/signal to the solenoid?
Once confirmed oil pressure is good, disconnect it.

Well, to explain it in a simple manner, the engine uses two pressure modes, which is why it is called a two stage oil pump solenoid. At high RPMs, the solenoid disconnects which results in the normal oil pressure mode. At idling or low RPMs like below 2000 for example, it is in low pressure mode which the ECU tells the oil pressure solenoid to close. Disconnecting it allows the solenoid to always operate in normal oil pressure mode regardless of RPM. This results in better responsiveness, less chance of scoring, less heat to the pistons and way more benefits. For more details, please see the big thread linked previously.
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If I'm understanding correctly if the oil pressure is good the solenoid should be good
If the oil pressure is good the solenoid should be open....that is good. If the solenoid has failed in the closed position, that is no good.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
If the oil pressure is good the solenoid should be open....that is good. If the solenoid has failed in the closed position, that is no good.
Yes, that spring is fragile too and could fail, just don't want oil debris jamming it closed, then goodbye engine.
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Yes, that spring is fragile too and could fail, just don't want oil debris jamming it closed, then goodbye engine.

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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Once confirmed oil pressure is good, disconnect it.

Well, to explain it in a simple manner, the engine uses two pressure modes, which is why it is called a two stage oil pump solenoid. At high RPMs, the solenoid disconnects which results in the normal oil pressure mode. At idling or low RPMs like below 2000 for example, it is in low pressure mode which the ECU tells the oil pressure solenoid to close. Disconnecting it allows the solenoid to always operate in normal oil pressure mode regardless of RPM. This results in better responsiveness, less chance of scoring, less heat to the pistons and way more benefits. For more details, please see the big thread linked previously.
I see thanks for explaining. Why does mb say to ignore the code and why even have two pressure modes if disconnecting is better even when all works well with no codes?

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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 11:22 AM
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I see thanks for explaining. Why does mb say to ignore the code and why even have two pressure modes if disconnecting is better even when all works well with no codes?
The two pressure mode is only for fuel economy and to satisfy EPA. Never to the benefit or longevity of the engine.
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I am bad at explaining things, you really should read the FAQ in the big thread previously linked but for your convenience, linking it again: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...solenoids.html
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Another reason why engine oils keeps on getting thinner, it is for fuel economy reasons but mainly satisfying the EPA. As well as the start/stop system, again EPA.
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