You did not confuse at all. I went a step ahead and used the calculator to check everything and here is what i found. i compared my rims 19 vs the mb suggested setup for 19 and my 19 vs their suggest 18 to check how much we are off.

 

As you can see, the difference in front will be off my 0.28 inches closer and 0.21 inches outer. Hopefully this doesnt hit inside when turning or throw rocks at the car for being little out.
For the rear, its more, its 0.5 inch closer to the inside and almost equal to the outer.
What do you think? Too dangerous or is this usually acceptable?

 

Acceptable.

You may be able to reuse the lug bolts that came with the vehicle depending on your aftermarket wheels, some designed with OE lug bolts in mind and if not you should still have the aftermarket ones from your GLB.

I thought you want to get a squared setup, how come front and rear is staggered in the image you shown above? If you are going for squared, those aftermarket wheels you have and the 225/40 R19 for all four and based on the specifications you provided on the winter wheels you used on the GLB, it is unlikely to give you issues. As for the old GLB tires, I think you can sell it for a good price hopefully.

Remember, you want to have at least 15-17mm of shank length left on the other side of the wheel. This is to ensure it is bolted on safely, you can go more than that for the front but do not go more for the rear as you don't want to destroy your brake shoe, 19mm or above is pretty much guaranteed that it will damage your brake shoe. Try to keep it in between 15-17mm, preferably 17mm.

 

You are correct, i mistakenly compared staggered formation. I updated it with square and now the rear measurement is even closer to what OEM is at least with 19 vs 18. I wrote it down to be more clear:
19" MB OE vs 19"Aftermarket(Square) = 7.35/5.35 mm off for Front tires
19" MB OE vs 19"Aftermarket(Square) = 13/0.65 mm off for Rear tires
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18" MB OE vs 19"Aftermarket(Square) = 7.35/5.35 mm off for Front tires
19" MB OE vs 19"Aftermarket(Square) = 10.35/2.35 mm off for Rear tires

As you can see the best case scenario is comparing what MB recommends as 18" and with my 19" aftermarket im off my 7.35 mm in front and 10.35 mm in rear. Now hopefully thats not too bad?
I do not have have aftermarket lugs, i always used the original with my GLB. I was hoping to do the exact same, use the original lugs with the new car with my 19s".

UPDATED

 

Assuming that all the data you provided me is correct and that you verified everything, the width of your aftermarket rim decreased by 0.5 inch that helped offset the differences you mentioned, it is unlikely you will have problems with these aftermarket wheels on 225/40 R19 tires. If your main concern is that it sticks out more, I am happy to say that it wouldn't be too much to the point that will actually cause an issue. The only thing sticking out too much is a problem is when it is greater than at least 20mm, then it is too far out putting stress on the wheel bearing (usually people do that for a wider stance at the rear), suspension components as everything is off balance that way. However, 10-13mm as you indicated is unlikely to cause damage.

 

Friday has came and almost gone, how was the delivery or are you enjoying the vehicle too much and don't have time to update us on it? If it is the latter, then glad to hear.

 

Yep enjoying the car! Got it at noon, got a chance to take it out for a spin later in the evening. Car is much better built i would surely say. Things i feel about it:
Pros:
- Much elegant interior
- Much much more quite, no wind noise
- Sexy looking all around especially the rear lights
- More smooth power and start stops
- Better handling and you dont feel the speed nor the engine

Cons:
-DTC Transmission... that shifts and high revs arnt there. You miss that quick shifts, now its like old man smooth no rush feeling
-Standard audio feels lack of bass. GLB has larger speakers, more bass. But now the doors dont rattle so i can compromise.
-No MBUX
-No vent lights or that many bright interior lights

Over all very much happy and enjoying it. Will take it for a spin tomorrow.
Very happy i didnt get 19" and not going to be putting 19" snow either. Ride is already stiff cant make it more stiff lol. 18" is just perfect as is!

 

Music to my ears. Thanks for updating us with the experience of your new vehicle. The increased luxury and refinement is what you should expect coming from an A-Class (in you case B-Class but they are really the same tier) stepping up to C-Class. I am glad your vehicle delivers.

Ya a sedan is always better looking than a SUV (in my opinion) but the SUV is just more practical but sacrifice in the looks department (again just my opinion though).

From your pictures you provided earlier, I noticed you don't even have Burmester, I am surprised it wasn't included in the premium package (as I checked it and it became a standalone option) but I guess cuz of supply shortage they pulled it out (as the previous model year Burmester is included in premium package or premium plus package, some GLC 63 owners got a credit for not having Burmester because of supply issues for example). Thankfully I think that is the only downgrade from the GLB you experience so far.

Ya the torque converted transmission is meant to be about less sporty and more luxurious (at least on paper) compared to the dual clutch auto you had on the GLB.

Ya MBUX is the benchmark but some prefer the COMAND because of the less complex and easier to use with the rotary wheel (no fingerprint problems on the screen so that's the bonus) hopefully you find things you enjoy with this infotainment system when you get used to it.

Glad you decided to not go with 19 inch winters after all, 18s suffer less from potholes and the ride is just so much better like I mentioned earlier (and based on my personal experience too) and one of your dealerships (the 2nd one that you called mentioned). I am glad you can experience that too. So you are set for 225/45 R18 now? Hope you are able to sell the GLB winter wheels and tires for a good price.

If you are getting 225/45 R18 squared, maybe you should reconsider Blizzak and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3. Especially since you live near Québec or at least go there often as you explained earlier. After all, I can't stress enough that tires are what connects you and your vehicle to the road, you want to get the best. As for other safety related things with tires, make sure to check the cold tire pressure every week at least or sometimes every other day. You can use the tire pressures on the door sills but MB has a sticker in the fuel cap that I personally (and many others here on the forums) go with.

 

Absolutely loving it! Today ended up doing 175 km/h and the scary part was i felt i was doing 120. You feel nothing.
Yes MBUX is the best but it really doesnt matter. Maps are the same and music player is no difference.
I am getting the tires for 18s for sure! They said they will try to get me square 225/45/18 if they can get the other brands you mentioned. If not it will be Michelin X-Ice Snow.
Btw, the all seasons do the job but im sure when it snows or freezing rain then i will suffer. The tires should be sorted out by the end of the week if they arrive. It will be either Michelin X-Ice Snow or Blizzak. They couldnt order the other brand!

 

Thanks for your update, glad to hear that you are enjoying your new vehicle. It is a good thing to hear that you no longer have to deal with a lemon and enjoying your cars again. Good luck on the tires, the stock "multiple season" tires that came with the vehicle are ok but I wouldn't trust them in Québec snow. So the sooner they can get it for you the better it would be : )
As for the other brand, the Finnish brand are they simply out of stock or they don't sell it at all?

 

They didn't have the other brands. So i finally got them today. I checked the fuel door and it says 38 PSI? lol Isn't that much for snow?

Michelin X-Ice® SNOW
F: 225/45/18
R: 245/40/18

Rims:
Width 8.0
Height 18"
Offset 40
Hub 66

I was concerned about the offset but they calculated and assured me they wont rub or touch. I did my own calculations

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Seems front is sticking little out by about 0.4 inch. What do you think?

Sorry the car is dirty due to all the snow and slush lol

 

Ouch that salt is brutal but you still kept it pretty clean which is nice.

Are you using the M&S tire pressure? I don't have the fuel door tire pressure sticker handy for the C 300 so I can't check but basically use that tire pressure with the normal load option. You would to take into account the current temperature as the lower the temperature the lower the tire pressure will get and then vice versa.

I guess you ended up getting staggered after all? I was hoping the tire shop at least throw a set of aftermarket hub cap if they were not to include the OEM MB ones for you. Without the cap it feels like something is missing.

 

Oh the wheel hub caps are there, i didnt install them yet lol. And yes i got staggered only for the reason they said if you dont, the rear will be too close and may rub. They said let us put the exact tires the car came with and if it doesnt work they will refund me lol. And they did a free install, and 30% off the price, i walked out installed $1030. And $1000 for rims all taxes in. Basically $2000 for both rims and tires installed out of the door. Dealership was asking $3200 taxes in JUST FOR THE TIRES lol.
So i didn't complain, i took staggered only due to circumstances.
Here is the door, 38 / 38 all around suggested. Gotta tell you ride is darn stiff and jumpy. What do you run yours at?
Fun Fact: Asked 3 different MB dealership in Provence and Quebec and got 3 different suggestions for tire preasure.
1) Leave it as 38 all around (The dummy response without even wasting 1 sec)
2) Leave it at 34 all around but only for winter
3) Put 38 or higher since cold weather can reduce the tire pressure??
4) My own opinion, leave at 36 all around? lol

 

Our calculations were not wrong, if you stick with 45 offset staggered (Typo: I meant squared) is the way to go but since you switched to ET 40, your shop wasn't lying that it might come in contact with the suspension components. Was there a reason that you changed the offset at the last minute? They ran out of ET 45 wheels?

That is strange, your tire pressure sticker is missing M+S. I have a C 43 and pre-facelift so I am not sure if my tire pressures are helpful at all. As the torque split is different and the C 43 tends to favour a bit more sportiness over the C 300.

That being said, 35 is my recommendation sweet sport for a C 300 in winter. I am not sure if my recommendation is good enough though. Ya you can do 36 if you want, so do that.

 

They didnt have 45, its Canadian Tire so they never have stock lol. I was lucky they had these ones else the wait would be couple of weeks so i took them and they discounted them as well lol. What does M+S mean? I will try both 36 and 35 and see if its any difference, but i think lower the better for winter. No way im keeping 38. Its a jumpy ride and feels im hitting each pebble on road lol.

 

Oh crappy tire I see, I thought you were getting it from pcmtire, no worries though glad they got close to what you were looking for at the end of the day. As for M+S, if I recalled correctly it was an abbreviation for a classification of tires specifically used for snow I guess, I am not 100% sure what it means but that is the go to tire pressure on MBs to use for those tires in those types of temperatures. My fuel door sticker has those values but I wonder if there are changes in the facelift W205 (which you have) that made them eliminate those values. Ya, good idea, trial and error and pick the best tire pressure for your driving style, the environmental temperature and ride comfort.

 

Few questions now that i have time to enjoy my car, What dash cam can be installed here? Any specific ones that dont require crazy modifications? Any other upgrades you can recommend for our cars?

 

Can you send us a picture of your interior as i have some ideas.

 

Glad to hear that you are enjoying your vehicle! Dashcam wise I am not sure what features you want though... MB sells an OEM one that is more integrated, https://configurator.mercedes-benz-a...ra_A2139055310

Personally, I been using Blackvue, another great option is Thinkware. Most of the models if not all have a super capacitor so it will survive through extreme heat and Canadian weathers. You might want to consider a dashcam battery so the dashcam can keep on recording while the vehicle is off, if not you could totally hardwire it to your vehicle but then it will drain your starter battery (although the dashcam usually turns off when it detects your starter battery is at a threshold set). I still recommend the additional dashcam battery option though, it usually charges when your engine is running so you don't have to unplug it and charge it at home.

When picking a dashcam, pick at least 1080P so you can tell what the plate of a car says within a certain distance of the video, best is go 2K or 4K. You need to choose between wanting a high frame rate vs high resolution. Do you want to clearly see the plate when they are moving fast or you want to see that plate clearly from a distance instead? That being said, you can pay more to get a camera that have both high resolution and frame rate.

A high capacity SD card is also recommended unless you don't want to keep the footage for more than a few days as they get full quick especially for 4K cameras. Get something high quality, you don't want a card to fail during recording and preferably something with a high read/write rate or very least something that meets minimum requirements of the camera. You need to get SD cards that clearly are labeled for use in dashcam and/or high endurance.

Get a dashcam that has bump sensors so it turns on to record an accident that happens in a parking lot when the car is off and then turns off to conserve battery power, unless you want to hardwire it so it is always on that way. This feature is not necessary if your dashcam is constantly on when parked through hardwiring or power provided by a dashcam battery.

It will be helpful if you have the mic enabled as well, you don't necessary need a dashcam that has a built-in GPS but it may be helpful, another nice feature is wifi-direct that you can download an app to view the footage and download the footage to your phone without removing the SD card from the dashcam, this is especially useful if your phone doesn't support Micro-SD card which include most phones nowadays.

It is up to you if you want to get two separate cameras for front and back but I think it is a good idea to do that incase one fails, you still have footage from another perspective while-as if you only have a main camera in the front and a secondary lens connecting to the main camera, if the whole thing fails, you lose both footage.

It is up to you if you want a dashcam with a built-in screen, it is useful if you want to view the footage on the spot (especially if you don't get one with wifi direct, although the built-in screen is usually tiny and low resolution). Make sure to test the two cameras front and back in different lighting conditions, you can also rotate them to the angle of your liking, you want the rear camera to be above the trunk but still low enough to see part of the floor as you want to record people's plate when they get uncomfortably close and especially if something happens (although honestly, as long as you get a high resolution camera, this step can be omitted) The front camera on the other hand, you can be flexible. Make sure your rear window is wiped periodically if you have a sedan since it doesn't have a wiper, the last thing you want is blurry footage. You can set the ISO and white balance of the camera manually, just configure it to a value that works for you in both night and bright conditions, try not to set it so it is over or under exposed and you are golden.

As for non-crazy modifications, I noticed your vehicle doesn't have Burmester so with those standard speaker covers, you could if you want swap those out for Burmester ones. If you like, you could install OEM logo puddle lights under your doors (although I personally didn't do that but a lot of people do and like it).

What type (as in category) of modifications are you looking for, so I can tailor to options to the specific needs or wants you have?

 

Here you go!

 

Andy, good to see you here helping another forum member, OP posted the images earlier:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ml#post8494452

 

Let me know if you need any clarification on anything. Let me know what category of modifications you are looking for as well.

 

I liked your reply for the dash cam and i think i will shop around on amazon! I found this:
My only question is how to get a wire all the way up there lol without removing bunch of trims which i would not want to do at least for now. But i guess run them off battery(dash cam's own battery?)
Other question, true i do not have the Burmaster but i should still have the center subwoofer correct? i feel no sound or base coming from it to be very honest. Is that big hole in the dash just empty space? Even with bass all the way to max i think i dont hear anything from that spot lol. How to check it?

 

You can feed the wires inside the headliner (gently pinch it a little and tuck the wires in, some dashcam like my Blackvue has small clips to help hold it in place, it also comes with another set of clips that has 3M tape on it as well, so you do have options) try to be as gentle as possible, you don't want the whole headliner to drop which will be expensive to repair. I have no experience with the dashcams you listed but according to RFD members, they are acceptable quality for the price. I believe (although might be wrong) those are powered by a lithium ion battery. That means it might fail to operate in extreme temperatures. The model they tested was A129 Plus Duo or the 66W (respectively).

If you are talking about the speaker on top of the dash, I believe it is just a cover. The easiest way to check it is to pry the cover off (gently of course).

Nextbase from the UK had great reviews by journalist but unfortunately also had batteries instead of supercapacitors and I heard they have freezing problems on their more recent models so I would stay clear from them as well.

You could consider Thinkware U1000 as well, they are a Korean brand I believe.

 

i think my first upgrade would be to add bass for the car. I had done a whole amp+sub for my old camry so i know how it should look in basic. No clue how MB has it. I guess all tutorials out there are about adding subs to preexisting burmester audio. I have just stock. Any clues on where t start? And yes my front center grill is empty. Cant put a sub there can i ? lol