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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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direct no cats

turbo sound is louder and better

exhuast note at muffler is bout 30% louder @ WOT but from inside the car it is almost like stock. no noise at all

NOW i need a tune for CEL and more boost


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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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have any video?
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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LOoks good. We just completed a CLS63 stateside with downpipes and Resonator by pass. Sounds mean. I will try to share the vid later today or early next week.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Update: Check out our facebook page for a Iphone Vid the guys took of it two nights ago... Will get better Audio next week.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55

NOW i need a tune for CEL and more boost

Dude that's awesome! Vtech's stage 2 tune is for exhaust mods and CEL is turned off. I may be going this route on my car also
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 03:29 AM
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 04:23 AM
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Dude that's awesome! Vtech's stage 2 tune is for exhaust mods and CEL is turned off. I may be going this route on my car also

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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 05:02 AM
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here are some videos


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ou060vx-ag


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20nZxaXSoDQ
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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Sounds great! Would you happen to have any vids next to the mufflers?
I bet the turbo spool sounds awesome!
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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I'm considering this mod but don't actually know if it increases hp at all.
Did you dyno the car before and after cat delete.
Would you offer your impression if car feels much stronger ?
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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Just a question....

Is the tune going to be that much more different than a stage 1 tune

By uncorking the exhaust you're allowing the turbos to spin more free thus allowing the turbos to work more efficiently

Won't the stage 1 tune compensate for that?

Just askin....
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Just a question....

Is the tune going to be that much more different than a stage 1 tune

By uncorking the exhaust you're allowing the turbos to spin more free thus allowing the turbos to work more efficiently

Won't the stage 1 tune compensate for that?

Just askin....
from what I understand removing the cats is only good for around 6 RWHP, but the turbo's do spin up a bit quicker. Vtech told me that they change the fueling up a bit in their Stage 2 tune and also CEL light is turned off for cars with exhaust mods. Stage 1 will compensate, but you may have the issue with CEL as Ali is seeing now with his stock tune.

I'm real interested in Ali's results, particularly if he goes with the Vtech stage 2 tune as this is the route I want to take with my car. It would be real interesting to compare his stage 2 with exhaust mods results to my bone stock with stage 1 tuning.

I really need to get my car to a track soon. I'm thinking low 11's won't be a problem

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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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turbo spool sounds al lot louder and better.

i didn't try with one of my friends to see the diffrence at least in performance.

but if it is true that deleting cats are giving 6RWHP, i would rather to but them back.

i can feel it is pulling stronger, but i have to try it by compairing with one of my friends that i tried with before.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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I'm considering this mod but don't actually know if it increases hp at all.
Did you dyno the car before and after cat delete.
Would you offer your impression if car feels much stronger ?
i feel it is faster, but maybe because the sound from exhuast is louder.

i didn't dyno the car

any deleting in cats for a FI car will sure make some power.

infact, i saw the stock cats, they were short and either 300 or 400 cell.

they are not restrictive as 55k cats.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
turbo spool sounds al lot louder and better.

i didn't try with one of my friends to see the diffrence at least in performance.

but if it is true that deleting cats are giving 6RWHP, i would rather to but them back.

i can feel it is pulling stronger, but i have to try it by compairing with one of my friends that i tried with before.
Ali the 6hp could just be a myth?
One would think you would gain far more by removing the cats.

Do you have access to a dyno?

I'm anxious to see how you run against your friend
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 03:08 AM
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i can see my car is runing richer now, AFR dropped .5 after i removed my cats.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
i can see my car is runing richer now, AFR dropped .5 after i removed my cats.
Sounds awesome!!!!

Have you done a dyno pull?
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
turbo spool sounds al lot louder and better.

i didn't try with one of my friends to see the diffrence at least in performance.

but if it is true that deleting cats are giving 6RWHP, i would rather to but them back.

i can feel it is pulling stronger, but i have to try it by compairing with one of my friends that i tried with before.
On V12TT cars removing the cats does not do much for peak HP / TQ but has good gains (30 hp range) under the curve where its more important. Want even more ? Do a full 3" exaust !

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:29 AM
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On V12TT cars removing the cats does not do much for peak HP / TQ but has good gains (30 hp range) under the curve where its more important. Want even more ? Do a full 3" exaust !


30hp are nice,

i did downpipe catless 2.75" same size as stock
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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Which would be considered the most restrictive in terms of releasing air flow to the turbos? The Cat or the Resonator?

I'm still not decided if I will go with straight pipes or keep either the Cat or Resonator.

Ken
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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Which would be considered the most restrictive in terms of releasing air flow to the turbos? The Cat or the Resonator?

I'm still not decided if I will go with straight pipes or keep either the Cat or Resonator.

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Cats restrict more... resonator is more of sound deadening device.

If you drop the cell count in the cats on a turbo you will get more air and you should get more power.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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It sounds beautiful. What an incredible engine you guys have under the hood!!
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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you post a lot of videos, which is great, but can you please spare a couple hundred $$$ and buy a new camera. your videos look like you filmed them with a toaster
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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