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Marc 01-22-2012 11:26 AM

Congrats on the passes! You're trapping a solid 1-2 MPH higher than Renntech and also putting down 26 RWHP more as well:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23298.html

Were your runs on straight 93 octane or did you mix in some race fuel?

elijah 01-22-2012 03:54 PM

Very nice numbers!!

Ready2roll 01-22-2012 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5015582)
strange, yet all the vids of corvettes (that appear stock) I've seen on YouTube they always seem to run like mid 12's - mid 13's.


If someone is only running 12's let alone 13's in a C6 ZO6 then they have absolutely horrible driving skills!


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5015922)
this is hard to believe. what about your Z06 now?

What's hard to believe? Those times on the ZO6 fast list? Those times are 100% real and criteria must be met before a time is included on that list. Check out the complete list here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html

As far as my ZO6 here is my best time to date
https://i130.photobucket.com/albums/...ddis68/908.jpg

My car will be running consistent 8's in the next few weeks as I'm installing a trans brake :y

Ready2roll 01-22-2012 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5016521)
Congrats on the passes! You're trapping a solid 1-2 MPH higher than Renntech and also putting down 26 RWHP more as well:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23298.html

Were your runs on straight 93 octane or did you mix in some race fuel?

Yep, that V-tech tune is incredible. Those times are on 93 octane pump gas :y

mainly 01-22-2012 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5016962)
If someone is only running 12's let alone 13's in a C6 ZO6 then they have absolutely horrible driving skills!


What's hard to believe? Those times on the ZO6 fast list? Those times are 100% real and criteria must be met before a time is included on that list. Check out the complete list here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html

As far as my ZO6 here is my best time to date
https://i130.photobucket.com/albums/...ddis68/908.jpg

My car will be running consistent 8's in the next few weeks as I'm installing a trans brake :y

it's just that the videos I've seen don't coincide with these crazy times . I thought the stock quoted time for a zo6 was around 12 flat. and even a zr1 was around 11.6. ???

I just didn't think that a car as technologically unadvanced as the zo6 , as well as being a pretty old platform would be that fast. ie I figure a brand new cls63 or f10 m5 "should" be able to walk all over a crappy old zo6 .

no offense.

j just find them to be kindof " all brawn and no brains" type of car

Ready2roll 01-22-2012 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017110)
it's just that the videos I've seen don't coincide with these crazy times . I thought the stock quoted time for a zo6 was around 12 flat. and even a zr1 was around 11.6. ???

Maybe you are looking at videos of regular base model Corvettes?
GM advertises 11.7 quarter mile times for the ZO6 and 11.3 for the ZR1.


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017110)
I just didn't think that a car as technologically unadvanced as the zo6

Technologically unadvanced? Really? Perhaps you should do some more research on them. They are an extremely advanced driving machine and hold records at the Nurburgring beating out cars costing hundreds of thousands more :y

And in case you're curious, here are the bone stock on stock tire times from the ZR1 fast list. If you click "video" it will bring to to the videos of these cars running the crazy times ;)
==================
Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
==================
Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details
6~~~~ 11.071 129.87 1.87 SlowZo6 ~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
7~~~~ 11.235 125.99 1.99 Incon306~~~~ 2010 details


The complete ZR1 fast list is here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...fast-list.html

mainly 01-22-2012 08:38 PM

and that time of 9 seconds was obviously on a very modified zo6 right?

what did you say like 1000 hp?

I don really expect to compare cars that heavily modded to a cls63.

and 11.3 is still pretty kick ass for a basically stock car. that heavy. even though it has a tune, the way i lopk at it the car is essentually stock form, and the tune only releases the potential that's already in the car right ? no physical changes to the car . just basicly " turning up the volume" a bit ...

Ready2roll 01-22-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017123)
and that time of 9 seconds was obviously on a very modified zo6 right?

what did you say like 1000 hp?

yes, my car is highly modified and lays down just over 1000 hp to the wheels.


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017123)
I don really expect to compare cars that heavily modded to a cls63.

I'm not comparing them. You asked me what my car ran so I showed you. There is no comparison :)


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017123)
and 11.3 is still pretty kick ass for a basically stock car. that heavy. even though it has a tune, the way i lopk at it the car is essentually stock form, and the tune only releases the potential that's already in the car right ? no physical changes to the car . just basicly " turning up the volume" a bit ...

Absolutely! I'm extremely impressed that I was able to consistently run 11.3s with only a V-Tech tune and on the stock tires. It's phenomenal when you think about it.

Yes, the tune just unleashes the car's potential :y

805Benz 01-22-2012 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017123)
and that time of 9 seconds was obviously on a very modified zo6 right?

what did you say like 1000 hp?

I don really expect to compare cars that heavily modded to a cls63.

and 11.3 is still pretty kick ass for a basically stock car. that heavy. even though it has a tune, the way i lopk at it the car is essentually stock form, and the tune only releases the potential that's already in the car right ? no physical changes to the car . just basicly " turning up the volume" a bit ...

You must drive a Z06 to appreciate the insane performance and capabilities, even a stock model. My car has about 100RWHP over stock and it makes the CLS 63 seem slow when taking off from 60MPH. Maxing out 3rd and 4th gear on the Z06 is quite scary, it's just brutal performance for a N/A street car. Hopefully a tune on the CLS63 will fix things up a bit.

Marc 01-22-2012 11:42 PM

V-tech tune? Are you sure? Or is it a TechTec tune?


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5016964)
Yep, that V-tech tune is incredible. Those times are on 93 octane pump gas :y


mainly 01-23-2012 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by 805Benz (Post 5017321)
You must drive a Z06 to appreciate the insane performance and capabilities, even a stock model. My car has about 100RWHP over stock and it makes the CLS 63 seem slow when taking off from 60MPH. Maxing out 3rd and 4th gear on the Z06 is quite scary, it's just brutal performance for a N/A street car. Hopefully a tune on the CLS63 will fix things up a bit.


do you have the P.P cls63?

2012?

805Benz 01-23-2012 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017363)
do you have the P.P cls63?

2012?

Yup... Check out the z06 videos on YouTube...

mainly 01-23-2012 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by 805Benz (Post 5017383)
Yup... Check out the z06 videos on YouTube...

yeah i have seen a few z06's on youtube, thats the only place ive seen them... i havent spent much time researching them though, as i dont care for them really. since ive owned a german car, pretty much all american cars just come across as a joke to me. especially in the looks dept.


and your z06 makes a cls63 with performance package seem SLOW?

Ready2roll 01-23-2012 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5017324)
V-tech tune? Are you sure? Or is it a TechTec tune?

I'm 100% sure. I've never heard of Techtec?
Check out the V-Tech tunes here
http://www.4-tecperformance.com/inde...&cPath=180_191

Ready2roll 01-23-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5017405)

and your z06 makes a cls63 with performance package seem SLOW?

A Z06 with 100 more RWHP than stock will make a CLS63, even a tuned CLS63 seem slow!!!!

Your lack of knowledge about the Z has obviously given you the wrong impression about this American made super car. A car with that much power, aluminum frame, carbon fiber body parts and weighs in at a mere 3200 lbs is far from a joke :naughty:

Keep in mind that our CLS63 sedans are 4200 lbs, 1000 more lbs than a crappy old Z06. While our tuned CLS63's are a force to be reckoned with, be very weary of pulling along side of a stock Z06 and think that you're going to take him. If he has mod's, even just a few bolt on's, it's going to get ugly for you really quick :rolf:

Vic55 01-23-2012 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5017629)
A Z06 with 100 more RWHP than stock will make a CLS63, even a tuned CLS63 seem slow!!!!

Your lack of knowledge about the Z has obviously given you the wrong impression about this American made super car. A car with that much power, aluminum frame, carbon fiber body parts and weighs in at a mere 3200 lbs is far from a joke :naughty:

Keep in mind that our CLS63 sedans are 4200 lbs, 1000 more lbs than a crappy old Z06. While our tuned CLS63's are a force to be reckoned with, be very weary of pulling along side of a stock Z06 and think that you're going to take him. If he has mod's, even just a few bolt on's, it's going to get ugly for you really quick :rolf:

Its all about power to weight and the Z06 rules here. But Im not so afraid at a dig to line up because most of the Orange County Z06 drivers are not that great at heel toe and our mash and go capabilities are simplistic. In my 997TT PDK I fear almost no one from a dig.

I know the Z06 is a great car. But the driver factor plays a larger role than it does in ours. Personally Id get one but Im so damn lazy and tired of rowing. My last car with a manny was my 996TT.

Ready2roll 01-23-2012 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 5017912)

I know the Z06 is a great car. But the driver factor plays a larger role than it does in ours. Personally Id get one but Im so damn lazy and tired of rowing. My last car with a manny was my 996TT.

I agree 100%. Most people that buy them are clueless on how to drive one properly. I also got tired of rowing gears and converted mine over to an auto :y

mainly 01-23-2012 03:37 PM

yeah their like 1100 lbs lighter. thats a lot.

but from a dig couldnt they just leave there traction control on? or do they not come with any.

Vic55 01-23-2012 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5018215)
yeah their like 1100 lbs lighter. thats a lot.

but from a dig couldnt they just leave there traction control on? or do they not come with any.

I may be wrong but I think its just a harder car to drive with the clutch from a dig. Im sure it has lsd.

Ready2roll 01-23-2012 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5018215)
yeah their like 1100 lbs lighter. thats a lot.

but from a dig couldnt they just leave there traction control on? or do they not come with any.


They come with LSD, traction control and also something called active handling. Despite the fact that it's built by Chevrolet, it's a very advanced performance machine :rolf:

805Benz 01-23-2012 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by mainly (Post 5018215)
yeah their like 1100 lbs lighter. thats a lot.

but from a dig couldnt they just leave there traction control on? or do they not come with any.

Even with traction control it's very easy to get it sideways. The car is no way built like a German car but if your just looking for a fun/affordable muscle car, this is it.

Ready2roll 01-31-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5016521)
Congrats on the passes! You're trapping a solid 1-2 MPH higher than Renntech and also putting down 26 RWHP more as well:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23298.html

Were your runs on straight 93 octane or did you mix in some race fuel?

Yep, the V-Tech tune is amazing. I'm running 93 octane because it's readily available to me here. The tune is actually for 91 octane :y

wheelsloose 02-14-2012 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5030694)
Yep, the V-Tech tune is amazing. I'm running 93 octane because it's readily available to me here. The tune is actually for 91 octane :y

Ready, do you have factory LSD option or aftermarket? Is stock one at only 30% locking really worth it and help any with off the line starts?

Ready2roll 02-14-2012 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by wheelsloose (Post 5054414)
Ready, do you have factory LSD option or aftermarket? Is stock one at only 30% locking really worth it and help any with off the line starts?

I have the factory LSD which is 40% locking. It's definitely working. No wheel spin off the line launching just off idle. As you can tell by the time slips it's working very well for me :D

wheelsloose 02-14-2012 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5054455)
I have the factory LSD which is 40% locking. It's definitely working. No wheel spin off the line launching just off idle. As you can tell by the time slips it's working very well for me :D

Yes those times are amazing! check this website: http://www.mbusa.com/amg/build/#/mod...ction-options/ and roll over the LSD option. It says it is only 30% locking (not that there is much difference between 40 or 30%) and that was my only concern and I know Renntech's is 100% locking but it will probably cost close to $4500 total (at least) by the time you factor in full installation cost and if factory one still works great for half the cost and full MB warranty then I will probably just add it on.


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