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Vic55 Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM

Teaser... HRE P40SC's- Conical and Light!!
 
Coming soon to a CLS near me....


They are not concave (that would denote a bowl shape) LOL
They are conical (denotes more of a cone angle) :)

Im utterly impressed with HRE: their wheels, their quality, their function, their form, their facility, and the leaders that run the facility.

Pics on the car will be forthcoming but I wanted to share the unmounted look and their weights.

Pretty amazing weights for a 20 inch wheel

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8493/hreconicals.jpg


Excuse the blurry pics (the point is the weight)


20x9

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3...rontweight.jpg

20x11

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4...rearweight.jpg

AKnight55 Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM

:boink:

gripforce-cl65 Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM

Love it and I want one too!!

oliver@velosdesignwerks.com Feb 7, 2012 11:23 AM

Nice, looking forward to pics!

wolfturbo Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM

I'm sporting wood!!! Those wheels look great - can't wait to see them on the car!!!

Ready2roll Feb 7, 2012 12:51 PM

Vic, those are absolutely the best looking wheels I've seen yet. I'd love a set of them.
Any idea what my AMG take offs would sell for?

Vic55 Feb 7, 2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5041693)
Vic, those are absolutely the best looking wheels I've seen yet. I'd love a set of them.
Any idea what my AMG take offs would sell for?

I dont know, takeoffs are generally very cheap so they would sell for cheap.

What do you have exactly?

dbasons55 Feb 7, 2012 01:15 PM

Great wheels I am looking into ordering a set just like those but in 19's can't wait to see pics of them fitted on your car :y

threeMBs Feb 7, 2012 01:32 PM

Not bashing HREs, but what makes these twice (at least) as expensive as BBS CH-Rs? They look almost identical to each other. Yes, CH-Rs do weight extra 6lbs or so per corner (means almost nothing on the streets, unless car is tracked as well), but quality is first class.

_AMG_ Feb 7, 2012 01:51 PM

Subscribed!!
These are gonna look f***ing sick on your ride!! :bow::bow::bow::bow:

_AMG_ Feb 7, 2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by threeMBs (Post 5041769)
Not bashing HREs, but what makes these twice (at least) as expensive as BBS CH-Rs? They look almost identical to each other. Yes, CH-Rs do weight extra 6lbs or so per corner (means almost nothing on the streets, unless car is tracked as well), but quality is first class.

BBS CH-R's are flow formed cast wheels.
Not as light weight or strong as HRE wheels which are forged.

IND-Distribution Feb 7, 2012 02:33 PM

:bow: Impressive weights for the size of the wheels.

Ready2roll Feb 7, 2012 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 5041698)
I dont know, takeoffs are generally very cheap so they would sell for cheap.

What do you have exactly?

These are the wheels that came on my car


https://i130.photobucket.com/albums/...is68/benz2.jpg

Vic55 Feb 7, 2012 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by threeMBs (Post 5041769)
Not bashing HREs, but what makes these twice (at least) as expensive as BBS CH-Rs? They look almost identical to each other. Yes, CH-Rs do weight extra 6lbs or so per corner (means almost nothing on the streets, unless car is tracked as well), but quality is first class.

Besides 11 sets of HRE- going on 12 soon...


I have had a set of CH's... the only other set(s) of wheels I have had in 10 years is BBS. 3 Sets of LM's, 1 CH, and I set of OZ's...


BBS CH in 20 inch set up are tanks weightwise (more than 6lbs over this exact setup). Id say if, and I say if, you had a 20x9 and 20x11 CH set up would be around 30lbs each. Thats about 8 lbs more on each corner of unsprung weight or 32 lbs total. Using a conservative unsprung to sprung weight translation, thats like taking 128 lbs out of your car (4x's ratio). I have driven my cars on many borrowed wheels- wheels only weighing 5-7 lbs more (only :)) and you can tell the difference easily from a dig- easily. In fact I was at HRE and they put a set of heavier wheels on for a photo shoot. These wheels weighed about 27lbs each- no brainer I could tell the difference.

And as mentioned they are cast and susceptible to bends, cracks etc. The quality is lesser in regards to fabrication (R and D), composition (forging), and fit and finish. They chip after a while (I owned a set) and clearly if you take a close up look at the wheel you will see the difference in build. Im sure there is more that experts can chime in on.

They dont come in custom set ups (nothing would ever fit a CLS) and they are not conical in nature. Please find me a BBS CH setup with 20x9 and 20x11 et 25 and et35. Now with that being said, they do fit an audience just not for me. Im driving a 115k car and what the quality of wheels to match along with perfection in looks. Im picky and work hard for what I have and wheels along with cars are my passion. HRE caters to this type of buyer. They do have the more affordable lines too (without true quality suffering).

I guess its like getting a CLS550 versus a CLS63TT--- pricing is huge and the differences to some are not worth it. To me, I get the best of the model I want and I get the best wheels. The cliche "you get what you pay for" holds true IMHO for wheels.

Vic55 Feb 7, 2012 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5041890)
These are the wheels that came on my car


https://i130.photobucket.com/albums/...is68/benz2.jpg

Why do you say "takeoffs"? Arent those the real deal?

If they are the real ones, they are forged and can bring decent coin... probably 2k if miles are low and the wheels are perfect.

Ready2roll Feb 7, 2012 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 5041932)
Why do you say "takeoffs"? Arent those the real deal?

If they are the real ones, they are forged and can bring decent coin... probably 2k if miles are low and the wheels are perfect.

What I meant by "take off's" is these would be the original take off's off my car if I were to go with after market wheels.

Vic55 Feb 7, 2012 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ready2roll (Post 5041950)
What I meant by "take off's" is these would be the original take off's off my car if I were to go with after market wheels.

I see... so then maybe 2k- maybe a little more. Im keeping my stock ones.

Ready2roll Feb 7, 2012 03:24 PM

You know, I think keeping the stock ones would be a great idea.

BK63amg Feb 7, 2012 03:32 PM

Vic - as usual, very bossy! Can't wait to see them on your car. You always do it right!

Kreuzfeuer Feb 7, 2012 03:58 PM

Seriously looking forward to seeing these on your car, those are very classy.

BK63amg Feb 7, 2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 5041928)
Besides 11 sets of HRE- going on 12 soon...


I have had a set of CH's... the only other set(s) of wheels I have had in 10 years is BBS. 3 Sets of LM's, 1 CH, and I set of OZ's...


BBS CH in 20 inch set up are tanks weightwise (more than 6lbs over this exact setup). Id say if, and I say if, you had a 20x9 and 20x11 CH set up would be around 30lbs each. Thats about 8 lbs more on each corner of unsprung weight or 32 lbs total. Using a conservative unsprung to sprung weight translation, thats like taking 128 lbs out of your car (4x's ratio). I have driven my cars on many borrowed wheels- wheels only weighing 5-7 lbs more (only :)) and you can tell the difference easily from a dig- easily. In fact I was at HRE and they put a set of heavier wheels on for a photo shoot. These wheels weighed about 27lbs each- no brainer I could tell the difference.

And as mentioned they are cast and susceptible to bends, cracks etc. The quality is lesser in regards to fabrication (R and D), composition (forging), and fit and finish. They chip after a while (I owned a set) and clearly if you take a close up look at the wheel you will see the difference in build. Im sure there is more that experts can chime in on.

They dont come in custom set ups (nothing would ever fit a CLS) and they are not conical in nature. Please find me a BBS CH setup with 20x9 and 20x11 et 25 and et35. Now with that being said, they do fit an audience just not for me. Im driving a 115k car and what the quality of wheels to match along with perfection in looks. Im picky and work hard for what I have and wheels along with cars are my passion. HRE caters to this type of buyer. They do have the more affordable lines too (without true quality suffering).

I guess its like getting a CLS550 versus a CLS63TT--- pricing is huge and the differences to some are not worth it. To me, I get the best of the model I want and I get the best wheels. The cliche "you get what you pay for" holds true IMHO for wheels.

At the end of the day, ita wheel is a wheel and a watch is a watch. They serve the same basic purpose, but not all are created equal. You're definitely the target demographic for high-end wheel manufacturers. In my opinion, it makes sense that you would want to put only the best of the best on a high-end vehicle.

I've always believed that if you're going to do it, do it right. It's kind of like wearing a high-end couture tuxedo with a Timex watch...you could, but wouldn't a Rolex or Piaget be more fitting for the ensemble?

vdubpower Feb 7, 2012 06:05 PM

Nice wheels love them

I need to get an idea of what I will eventually want

Anyone have opinions on rotiform. They have offered to work with me on design

Rob@vividracing Feb 9, 2012 03:46 PM

Put them on already!!!! I just got a set of these for a local Z06 and the 20x13 is incredibly light.

Vic55 Feb 9, 2012 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rob@vividracing (Post 5045746)
Put them on already!!!! I just got a set of these for a local Z06 and the 20x13 is incredible light weight.

I did :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:

But I was busy getting another 63TT this week...


Photos are coming in a different thread.

gripforce-cl65 Feb 9, 2012 09:41 PM

It looks very similar to the Cor wheels I had them on my GTR.
I can't wait to see the pics of your car.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSC_2625.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSC_2609.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSC_2622.jpg


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