Renntech ECU Upgrade
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So I have a few questions:
1. What's the fastest Renntech customer car without you driving?
2. What the fastest Renntech car using parts that they are willing to sell a customer?
3. What's the fastest Renntech car without high pressure lines under the hood?
4.What's with the secret trunk compartment and the blue bottle in Mut's C63?
Thanks. I can keep going if you'd like
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this shyt has been going on for years, Oliver Neumann should get residuals for reviving your company when the twin turbo V12's came out. Dont wonder why the old timers are always so pissed with RT, some of us have been around long enough...
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Sorry that is not my intention. I just like to call a spade a spade and lay all the cards on the table.
Sure, Renntech does not advertise that 10.90 run on their webpage, but posters here leave out all the pertinent mods that got it there and elude to the fact that it's the regular tune that you can order off their site.
Nevertheless, it's a huge accomplishment to put a car this size into the 10's so hats off to Renntech
Sure, Renntech does not advertise that 10.90 run on their webpage, but posters here leave out all the pertinent mods that got it there and elude to the fact that it's the regular tune that you can order off their site.
Nevertheless, it's a huge accomplishment to put a car this size into the 10's so hats off to Renntech
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Sorry that is not my intention. I just like to call a spade a spade and lay all the cards on the table.
Sure, Renntech does not advertise that 10.90 run on their webpage, but posters here leave out all the pertinent mods that got it there and elude to the fact that it's the regular tune that you can order off their site.
Nevertheless, it's a huge accomplishment to put a car this size into the 10's so hats off to Renntech
Sure, Renntech does not advertise that 10.90 run on their webpage, but posters here leave out all the pertinent mods that got it there and elude to the fact that it's the regular tune that you can order off their site.
Nevertheless, it's a huge accomplishment to put a car this size into the 10's so hats off to Renntech
At least you have a dog in this fight as you own the car and have a tune.
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You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things, and judging by your significant accomplishments on the Z06 and your new CLS, you know plenty about testing and tuning a setup. So it is with great disappointment that I see you buying into the rhetoric being flung around.
Is it a crime to test a tuned car on OEM street tires at the track and post the findings? (RT: 11.2@125, as advertised to customers)
Is it a crime to then perform further modifications - hardware and software, as quoted on their web blog and here - on that same car, including drag radials, and post the findings? (RT: 10.9@129, as posted here and on their web blog)
Is it a crime to then continue improving that same car and post findings? (RT: 10.9@131, so far only announced here)
I just don't see the issue. If you want to know what they're telling customers, go to their official news site and read what the customers are reading. Not what an enthusiast is posting here. There's nothing official about that.
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This is a message to Renntech. I eagerly want to see how your tune and exhaust mod for your 2012 CLS63 can perform against me. My vehicle is well known in this forum. As a matter of fact, I have been harassing one of your customers here in Qatar who has a tune and turbo headers with down pipes. Till this day he won't race me. Because I think we both know what the outcome of this will be.
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
I honestly, must say without offending you, your horsepower ratings are full of it. 669 Horsepower???? WTF????
All the European tuners and well known tuners have quoted between 620-630 horsepower. But you on the other hand are claiming that the car is under rated, and rating it on a dynoJet 
.
Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
I honestly, must say without offending you, your horsepower ratings are full of it. 669 Horsepower???? WTF????
All the European tuners and well known tuners have quoted between 620-630 horsepower. But you on the other hand are claiming that the car is under rated, and rating it on a dynoJet .Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
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This is a message to Renntech. I eagerly want to see how your tune and exhaust mod for your 2012 CLS63 can perform against me. My vehicle is well known in this forum. As a matter of fact, I have been harassing one of your customers here in Qatar who has a tune and turbo headers with down pipes. Till this day he won't race me. Because I think we both know what the outcome of this will be.
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
I honestly, must say without offending you, your horsepower ratings are full of it. 669 Horsepower???? WTF???? All the European tuners and well known tuners have quoted between 620-630 horsepower. But you on the other hand are claiming that the car is under rated, and rating it on a dynoJet .
Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
I honestly, must say without offending you, your horsepower ratings are full of it. 669 Horsepower???? WTF????
All the European tuners and well known tuners have quoted between 620-630 horsepower. But you on the other hand are claiming that the car is under rated, and rating it on a dynoJet .Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
And who doesn't use a DynoJet?
Aside from that, I think the race idea is excellent. Would be awesome either way.
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Guys keep the debate going- its a good read- just dont make it personal or violate the TOU- I would hate to shut down such a wonderful thread
Last edited by Vic55; Feb 29, 2012 at 01:03 PM.
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It's not a debate, Vic, and you know it. It is rhetoric - a technique of persuasion. Everything about RT lying to customers via false advertising, claiming the tune-only car is capable of 10s, etc has been proven to be fabricated. But just by saying it in a public, searchable forum, people are giving life to the negative claims.
And the real problem is that you like where it's going. But as long as you don't come out and actually say it, you've effectively done nothing worthy of punishment.
And the real problem is that you like where it's going. But as long as you don't come out and actually say it, you've effectively done nothing worthy of punishment.
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It's not a debate, Vic, and you know it. It is rhetoric - a technique of persuasion. Everything about RT lying to customers via false advertising, claiming the tune-only car is capable of 10s, etc has been proven to be fabricated. But just by saying it in a public, searchable forum, people are giving life to the negative claims.
And the real problem is that you like where it's going. But as long as you don't come out and actually say it, you've effectively done nothing worthy of punishment.
And the real problem is that you like where it's going. But as long as you don't come out and actually say it, you've effectively done nothing worthy of punishment.
And I have no ill will towards RT or any other posters so let them post.
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I do like the equivalent of "air quotes" you used there to indicate sarcasm.
Some posters have made pretty stout claims with regards to this whole CLS63TT topic, and each of them has been debunked. So those claims (populated by opposing tuners and their customers, and not one unrelated third-party, to be exact) are the "so called lies".
Now someone is going to read some of this and the name Renntech (a sponsor) might leave a sour taste in their mouth (despite being debunked), and the value of my RT modded E55K is going to go down in the used market.
And that pisses me off!
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Just one comment, the skinnies will also help with less rolling resistance... which will probably help more to increase trap speed...but should help the ET a bit (along with the aforementioned less mass).
One suggestion should be to change the thread title to "MBWorld Clash of the Titans"....
Tom
One suggestion should be to change the thread title to "MBWorld Clash of the Titans"....
Tom
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This is a message to Renntech. I eagerly want to see how your tune and exhaust mod for your 2012 CLS63 can perform against me. My vehicle is well known in this forum. As a matter of fact, I have been harassing one of your customers here in Qatar who has a tune and turbo headers with down pipes. Till this day he won't race me. Because I think we both know what the outcome of this will be.
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
If you happen to have any new customers in Qatar running with your mods I would love to race them. I will post the video up here, in this thread.
Enough with the nonsense talking. Im calling you up on a race. LETS DO IT
I want to see this!!!
I don't recommend any form of punishment. I don't think I asked for that. Maybe I worded it funny.. i'll re-read.
I do like the equivalent of "air quotes" you used there to indicate sarcasm.
Some posters have made pretty stout claims with regards to this whole CLS63TT topic, and each of them has been debunked. So those claims (populated by opposing tuners and their customers, and not one unrelated third-party, to be exact) are the "so called lies".
Now someone is going to read some of this and the name Renntech (a sponsor) might leave a sour taste in their mouth (despite being debunked), and the value of my RT modded E55K is going to go down in the used market.
And that pisses me off!
I do like the equivalent of "air quotes" you used there to indicate sarcasm.
Some posters have made pretty stout claims with regards to this whole CLS63TT topic, and each of them has been debunked. So those claims (populated by opposing tuners and their customers, and not one unrelated third-party, to be exact) are the "so called lies".
Now someone is going to read some of this and the name Renntech (a sponsor) might leave a sour taste in their mouth (despite being debunked), and the value of my RT modded E55K is going to go down in the used market.
And that pisses me off!
Just one comment, the skinnies will also help with less rolling resistance... which will probably help more to increase trap speed...but should help the ET a bit (along with the aforementioned less mass).
One suggestion should be to change the thread title to "MBWorld Clash of the Titans"....
Tom
One suggestion should be to change the thread title to "MBWorld Clash of the Titans"....
Tom
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When I flew out there to enjoy the weather the last thing on my mind was busting you out........Drinking and relaxing was a much more appealing option. Besides, I don't really care. It's you that has to live with what you do, not me.
So I have a few questions:
1. What's the fastest Renntech customer car without you driving?
2. What the fastest Renntech car using parts that they are willing to sell a customer?
3. What's the fastest Renntech car without high pressure lines under the hood?
4.What's with the secret trunk compartment and the blue bottle in Mut's C63?
Thanks. I can keep going if you'd like
So I have a few questions:
1. What's the fastest Renntech customer car without you driving?
2. What the fastest Renntech car using parts that they are willing to sell a customer?
3. What's the fastest Renntech car without high pressure lines under the hood?
4.What's with the secret trunk compartment and the blue bottle in Mut's C63?
Thanks. I can keep going if you'd like
And I don't blame you for chilling in Miami instead of looking over someones car Did he expect you to pull the motor to get the turbos out and take them apart and measure the wheels etc? And take the diff out to verify gearing? Truth is out... finally
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This is a perfect example of misdirection by posting false information and half-truths.
If you have an issue with SGC or any other member - fine, go trash them in their own threads. None of that has anything to do with tuning a CLS63TT. Go talk to him, in his thread, about his CL65 and whether or not it's faster than yours.
Last edited by EcruisinUSA; Feb 29, 2012 at 02:13 PM.
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Brabus, PP-Performance, TechTec, MKB, and many others well known high class german tuners don't use dynoJet. In fact AMG factory ratings don't come from a dynoJet. These are German cars and they are calibrated differently. DynoJets are misleading and they can be manipulated easily. The proper dyno like the accurate Maha LPS300 would put a tuned 2012 CLS63 around 620-630.
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Did Renntech claim the car ran 10.9 full weight? No. Did Renntech claim the car ran 10.9 on the same tune they sell customers? No.
This is a perfect example of misdirection by posting false information and half-truths.
If you have an issue with SGC or any other member - fine, go trash them in their own threads. None of that has anything to do with tuning a CLS63TT. Go talk to him, in his thread, about his CL65 and whether or not it's faster than yours.
This is a perfect example of misdirection by posting false information and half-truths.
If you have an issue with SGC or any other member - fine, go trash them in their own threads. None of that has anything to do with tuning a CLS63TT. Go talk to him, in his thread, about his CL65 and whether or not it's faster than yours.
